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| tspatzier | stevebaker, you're around? | 07:36 |
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| skraynev | tspatzier, I think that he is not available now, because middle of the night in his time zone. | 07:44 |
| tspatzier | skraynev, yes, might be. I was giving it a try since he sometimes is around at this time ... anyway I had nothing really important | 07:46 |
| skraynev | tspatzier, yap, midnight worker style))) | 07:46 |
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| therve | 'morning | 08:33 |
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| tomek_adamczewsk | Hi, I'm trying to understand the provider feature in Heat. What I have right now is a bunch of regular nested stacks with some parameters exposed in the "parent" template and pushed via reference to "nested" ones. I've introduced a given naming convention and can control each parameter. For example, I have a defaultKeyName parameter defined in each template (wrapping and nested ones). By default, nested stack gets "defaultKeyName":{"Re | 09:59 |
| tomek_adamczewsk | template, and each instance has a "KeyName":{"Ref":"defaultKeyName"} property. User can overwrite it on different levels - use other key for all instances in a single nested stack (by changing from reference to actual value in the wrapping template) or use other key only for a single instance (by modifying KeyName directly in the nested template). I thought I could move this to environment - define a value for "defaultKeyName" env para | 09:59 |
| tomek_adamczewsk | maps from wrapping template (and parameters passed to wrapping template when creating stack). If user wants to overwrite the default value, he'll modify it the same way he does it right now. Is that possible? I guess I could remove the parameters from wrapping template (I don't use it anywhere in this template - just pass it to nested ones) but I can't remove it from nested templates. Am I right? | 09:59 |
| shardy | shadower: pong | 10:05 |
| shadower | shardy: reading the docs got me wondering: is there a reason OS::Heat::RandomString isn't cryptographically secure? Was it discussed? | 10:05 |
| shadower | shardy: it kind of seems like a thing that ought to use a csprng | 10:06 |
| shardy | shadower: not discussed as far as I can remember, feel free to raise a bug | 10:06 |
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| shadower | shardy: thanks, will do | 10:06 |
| shardy | tomek_adamczewsk: currently the environment parameters only affect the top-level stack | 10:07 |
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| shardy | tomek_adamczewsk: I agree, we may want to change that so you can specify nested stack parameters in the environment, but for now the workaround is to define all parameters in the top-level stack and pass them to the nested stack | 10:08 |
| shardy | i.e define top-level parameters which are passed as properties to the provider resource | 10:09 |
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| tomek_adamczewsk | shardy: so the only difference right now is that I don't need to specify parameters when creating stacks, but that won't simplify my templates anyhow, right? | 10:14 |
| shardy | tomek_adamczewsk: right, the parameters feature of environments just makes things more convenient when creating the stack | 10:15 |
| tomek_adamczewsk | and, if it was possible to define parameters for nested stacks in environment, could I also use intrinsic functions? | 10:15 |
| shardy | tomek_adamczewsk: Although obviously provider resources mapped via the environment can simplify your template structure considerably | 10:15 |
| shardy | tomek_adamczewsk: You mean use intrinsic functions in the environment file? | 10:16 |
| tomek_adamczewsk | yes | 10:16 |
| shardy | Hmm, I'm not sure we'd want to support that - the environment is supposed to be a static definition | 10:16 |
| shardy | I think, probably, if you need intrinsic functions, then that should happen in the template itself, not the environment | 10:17 |
| shardy | it would be interesting to see more details on your use-case though | 10:17 |
| tomek_adamczewsk | one example could be stackId : {Ref: 'AWS::StackId'} | 10:17 |
| tomek_adamczewsk | what I would like to have is a stack.id tag in every instance of a stack (doesn't matter if it's in a nested template, or not). can I somehow extract it from templates and force providers/environments to inject it? | 10:19 |
| skraynev | shardy: Could you give answers on my comment in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/65275/ ? | 10:19 |
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| tomek_adamczewsk | shardy: to be more specific - in XLcloud we are trying to introduce interfaces for nested stacks (that will probably become provider resources one day). we have a few business requirements (like: "if not specified differently, use some predefined, default values for subnetId, KeyName, Instance Type, ImageId etc" or "each instance should be tagged with appropriate stack.id to aggregate stack-related data in ceilometer metrics"). I would | 10:27 |
| tomek_adamczewsk | a bit more generic (e.g. let template author specify that a given instance type or image id cannot be modified by end users) and I'm trying to figure out how to achieve it with providers and environments | 10:27 |
| shardy | skraynev: done | 10:27 |
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| skraynev | shardy: Thank you ;) | 10:27 |
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| therve | andersonvom, Around? | 10:43 |
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| Bada | I guys, i am trying to set up Heat on a dedicated node. When i start the API it says "OSError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/var/lib/neutron". Should i install neutron-server to run Heat ? THanks | 11:04 |
| therve | Probably not :) | 11:05 |
| therve | When you start heat-api? | 11:05 |
| Bada | yes | 11:05 |
| Bada | it's in /var/log/heat/heat-api.log | 11:05 |
| Bada | when i start heat-api service | 11:06 |
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| Bada | no idea ? | 11:19 |
| shardy | Bada: pasting the full backtrace from the logs might help | 11:19 |
| Bada | ok | 11:19 |
| shardy | paste.openstack.org | 11:19 |
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| Bada | here it is : http://paste.openstack.org/show/60945/ | 11:21 |
| shardy | Bada: what is signing_dir set to in the [keystone_authtoken] section of your /etc/heat/heat.conf file? | 11:23 |
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| Bada | that's it :) | 11:24 |
| Bada | neutron copy paste | 11:24 |
| Bada | i remove it | 11:24 |
| Bada | that's better | 11:25 |
| Bada | 2014-01-10 12:25:08.867 3135 INFO heat.api.cfn [-] Starting Heat API on 0.0.0.0:8000 | 11:25 |
| Bada | thanks | 11:25 |
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| skraynev | shardy: Do you remember our discussion about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/63932/2 ? | 11:33 |
| skraynev | shardy: As I remember we solved make Warning and soft transformation for compatibility . right? | 11:35 |
| skraynev | shardy: I research it and get such results: | 11:35 |
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| skraynev | shardy: 1. For Number type all will be ok, because str will be transformed in num with Schema.str_to_num(value) | 11:37 |
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| skraynev | 2. For Integer type it doesn't work. | 11:37 |
| skraynev | And I would get you opinion about how to fix it better: 1. in properties (make converting in integer validate method) or 2. catch error in during creation ceilometer alarm and then try to convert ? | 11:39 |
| shardy | skraynev: maybe str_to_num should also convert Integer, that seems inconsistent to me | 11:40 |
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| skraynev | shardy: You will not believe - but it is as you said. https://github.com/openstack/heat/blob/master/heat/engine/properties.py#L241 | 11:43 |
| skraynev | But before this operation we get Raise | 11:43 |
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| skraynev | I could simplify add string type in existing check, but it will be looks confusing for me... | 11:44 |
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| shardy | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/52564/1/heat/engine/properties.py | 11:46 |
| skraynev | OMG.. | 11:47 |
| skraynev | It's difficult backward compatibility. | 11:47 |
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| skraynev | Well, catching it in Ceilometer resource looks better in this case. | 11:49 |
| shardy | skraynev: So maybe discuss with radix, it seems that despite saying "Numbers/Integer" in the commit message, we only convert Number? | 11:49 |
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| skraynev | Hm. It make sense (about discussion with radix). Could you suggest when he will be available? | 11:52 |
| shardy | He's US based I believe, so in a few hours probably | 11:53 |
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| shardy | There is discussion in the patch re the Number/Integer inconsistency, seems we should either convert both or neither | 11:53 |
| skraynev | ok, my gratitude. | 11:54 |
| skraynev | yeap, currently it seems uncompleted or something like that. | 11:55 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/heat: Add documentation for multi-engine https://review.openstack.org/63963 | 12:54 |
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| therve | Is there a benefit of using glance client instead of talking to nova for image info? | 13:12 |
| therve | We're still using nova to get images, presumably we'd save one round trip by talking to glance directly | 13:12 |
| therve | I guess we don't depend on python-glanceclient, which is nice | 13:13 |
| shardy | therve: we depend on all the other clients, so I don't see any reason why we couldn't talk directly to glance | 13:14 |
| therve | shardy, Yeah, I just wondered if there is a good reason to do so | 13:15 |
| therve | Like, maybe we want to have a resource to create images? That could be handy | 13:18 |
| shardy | therve: Yeah that was discussed a while back IIRC | 13:19 |
| shardy | Doing a quick test it's definitely significantly faster talking direct to glance | 13:19 |
| therve | That would makes sense :) | 13:20 |
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| sdake | morning | 13:32 |
| shardy | hi sdake | 13:34 |
| sdake | hey shardy | 13:37 |
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| openstackgerrit | Thomas Herve proposed a change to openstack/heat: Don't query for resource during stack creation https://review.openstack.org/63914 | 14:11 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sergey Kraynev proposed a change to openstack/heat: Showing member list for nested resources https://review.openstack.org/65970 | 14:36 |
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| tzumainn | hi! can anyone here answer a question about how the various status attributes work in heat? | 14:46 |
| shardy | tzumainn: Probably, what is your question? | 14:47 |
| tzumainn | shardy, thanks! I have a couple of them, let me see. . . | 14:47 |
| tzumainn | okay, let's say I have a stack deployed, and a resource deployed on a nova instance | 14:48 |
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| tzumainn | does the resource status match the nova instance status exactly? | 14:48 |
| shardy | tzumainn: No, we map the status of the underlying resource to a predefined status (common to all resources) | 14:49 |
| shardy | e.g ACTIVE becomes CREATE_COMPLETE | 14:49 |
| tzumainn | shardy, ah, okay | 14:49 |
| tzumainn | if the nova instance status went into an error state | 14:50 |
| tzumainn | would that be reflected in the resource status? | 14:50 |
| shardy | tzumainn: Yes, it will go to CREATE_FAILED | 14:50 |
| tzumainn | even if the error state happened, say, long after a successful creation? | 14:51 |
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| shardy | tzumainn: No, that won't be reflected, we just look for ACTIVE on initial creation | 14:51 |
| tzumainn | shardy, ah, okay - so post-creation, if I want to monitor the state of the instance, I should look at the nova instance state, and not the resource state, right? | 14:52 |
| shardy | tzumainn: there is work going on at the moment to allow you to trigger an update which sync's the resource status with the status of the underlying resource | 14:52 |
| shardy | tzumainn: right now, yes | 14:52 |
| tzumainn | shardy, okay, thanks a lot! | 14:52 |
| shardy | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/heat/+spec/stack-check | 14:52 |
| shardy | tzumainn: ^^ That may be of interest to you when it is completed | 14:52 |
| tzumainn | shardy, ah, thanks for the link! | 14:53 |
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| skraynev | radix, are you around? | 15:35 |
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| radix | skraynev: hello | 15:36 |
| skraynev | radix: hello, I want know you opinion about properties schema | 15:37 |
| skraynev | radix. currently I am working on https://bugs.launchpad.net/heat/+bug/1261390 | 15:38 |
| radix | okay | 15:38 |
| skraynev | and I have discussed these changes with shardy and therve | 15:39 |
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| radix | skraynev: is there a patch? | 15:39 |
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| skraynev | yes, there is https://review.openstack.org/#/c/63932/ | 15:40 |
| skraynev | But current approach is not better, because we have problem with backward compatibility | 15:41 |
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| radix | oh, is this about numbers and string conversion? | 15:42 |
| skraynev | YES) | 15:42 |
| skraynev | you are right | 15:42 |
| skraynev | this old problem | 15:42 |
| radix | skraynev: are you having problems on current trunk or is it havana? | 15:43 |
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| skraynev | it's for trunk | 15:43 |
| therve | We "just" need to introduced a new schema type that accepts both | 15:44 |
| radix | hm | 15:44 |
| radix | so I thought Integer would already accept strings | 15:44 |
| skraynev | therve: Yes, I am working on this sollution | 15:44 |
| skraynev | s/sollution/solution | 15:45 |
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| therve | radix: you're making me doubt now | 15:45 |
| skraynev | radix: such as for Number? | 15:45 |
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| radix | right, lemme look | 15:45 |
| radix | huh, I guess not | 15:46 |
| therve | Yeah it doesn't | 15:47 |
| radix | ok, and I see, my patch commit message from back then lied | 15:47 |
| radix | I only added it for Number | 15:47 |
| skraynev | hm | 15:48 |
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| skraynev | I am doing such http://paste.openstack.org/show/60984/ | 15:48 |
| skraynev | Simplify I offer to add warning messages about not correct type. | 15:49 |
| therve | Yeah Number works :/ | 15:49 |
| radix | therve: right, because I made it work | 15:49 |
| radix | because of references and stuff | 15:49 |
| skraynev | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/52564/1/heat/engine/properties.py | 15:49 |
| radix | actually, it was originally intended to work that way, there was already string->number conversion code, but the place where it was used was buggy | 15:49 |
| radix | skraynev: fwiw that should be "self.str_to_num" not "Schema.str_to_num" | 15:49 |
| radix | skraynev: in your patch | 15:50 |
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| skraynev | radix: gotcha | 15:50 |
| radix | I can't quite remember now, maybe I tried adding the string conversion for integer but it caused problems elsewhere | 15:50 |
| radix | skraynev: does your change cause any test failures? | 15:50 |
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| therve | I thin Schema.str_no_num is correct | 15:51 |
| skraynev | radix: You mean in unittests or where? | 15:51 |
| radix | yes, unit tests | 15:51 |
| skraynev | I change their here https://review.openstack.org/#/c/63932/2/heat/tests/test_ceilometer_alarm.py | 15:52 |
| radix | therve: fwiw the reason I originally needed to fix the str->Number conversion wasn't even for compatibility, it was because reference IDs can only be strings | 15:52 |
| radix | and I had a resource with a Number property and I wanted to pass another resource's ID to it | 15:53 |
| therve | Mokay | 15:53 |
| skraynev | radix: or you mean patch, which are share with paste.openstack.org? | 15:53 |
| radix | skraynev: I mean the one you shared on paste.openstack.org | 15:53 |
| skraynev | radix: unfortunately no yet. I just make changes but have no time for testing it | 15:54 |
| therve | skraynev, Note that adding a warning in the log is not a good solution | 15:54 |
| skraynev | I could try now | 15:54 |
| radix | yeah, the print is pretty useless | 15:54 |
| radix | we don't have a mechanism for reporting warnings to users | 15:54 |
| skraynev | Um. You offer use "print ..." | 15:55 |
| skraynev | ? | 15:55 |
| radix | huh? | 15:55 |
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| therve | skraynev, No your patch says "print a warning here" | 15:56 |
| therve | It shouldn't do that :) | 15:56 |
| skraynev | therve: yes, I plan to add warning message to log file | 15:57 |
| therve | skraynev, yeah don't do that | 15:57 |
| skraynev | Ok. But you tald about some type of warning))) | 15:57 |
| therve | It'd be nice, but we don't have the mechanism | 15:58 |
| therve | And spamming the operator won't help | 15:58 |
| skraynev | therve: Well. I understand it now. thanks. I remove it | 15:59 |
| skraynev | So solution will be: only conversion without some messages? | 16:00 |
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| skraynev | And I think, that better make this changes in separate patch (not with Ceilometer Alarm resource) | 16:01 |
| therve | Yeah | 16:02 |
| radix | yep. | 16:02 |
| radix | skraynev: if you run into any strange test failures that aren't obvious feel free to ask me | 16:02 |
| therve | I'm still pondering whether allowing strings for all integers is the best idea, but it seems reasonable | 16:03 |
| skraynev | Should I create bug for this? And may I assign it on me? | 16:03 |
| therve | skraynev, Please | 16:03 |
| skraynev | radix: ok, if I meet some bugs or fails, I will ask certainly ;) thanks) | 16:04 |
| skraynev | therve: I agree, that it bad style (make type and some checks and then use other types with conversion). there is blame of backwards compatibility... | 16:07 |
| therve | Well, be liberal in what you accept, etc | 16:08 |
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| skraynev | therve, ;) | 16:15 |
| skraynev | there is link to bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/heat/+bug/1267924 | 16:15 |
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| openstackgerrit | Diane Fleming proposed a change to openstack/heat: update pom.xml files with clouddocs-maven-plugin version 1.12.2 https://review.openstack.org/66038 | 19:02 |
| radix | stevebaker: heya, do you think you could look at some of the BPs I added as prereqs for the other AS bps? | 19:06 |
| radix | stevebaker: basically I broke down a lot of the work into more meaningful chunks | 19:06 |
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| stevebaker | radix: OK, I'll go through them | 19:24 |
| radix | stevebaker: awesome, tyvm | 19:24 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/heat: log warning, when $SERVICE_HOST is localhost https://review.openstack.org/64697 | 20:21 |
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