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| stevebaker | heat delete config1 | 00:06 |
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| stevebaker | ERROR: Stack config1 already has an action (CREATE) in progress. | 00:06 |
| stevebaker | that shouldn't be happening | 00:06 |
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| stevebaker | https://bugs.launchpad.net/heat/+bug/1262012 | 00:11 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1262012 in heat "Cannot delete an IN_PROGRESS stack" [High,Triaged] | 00:12 |
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| spzala | stevebaker: Hi. Thanks for the email on software config progress with awesome detail. I am testing/reviewing it. | 01:16 |
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| sdake_ | hardwiring internet is so much fun in a brick house | 02:08 |
| sdake_ | thank god for hammer drills | 02:08 |
| openstackgerrit | Angus Salkeld proposed a change to openstack/heat: Add migration test framework https://review.openstack.org/62796 | 02:10 |
| asalkeld | lifeless, I can't get this data to fail ^ | 02:10 |
| lifeless | asalkeld: word | 02:11 |
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| asalkeld | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/62796/1/heat/tests/db/test_migrations.py | 02:11 |
| asalkeld | this is testing sqlite and mysql | 02:11 |
| lifeless | mysql> CREATE TABLE stack_lock ( stack_id VARCHAR(36) NOT NULL, created_at DATETIME, updated_at DATETIME, engine_id VARCHAR(36), PRIMARY KEY (stack_id), FOREIGN KEY(stack_id) REFERENCES stack (id) )ENGINE=InnoDB CHARSET=utf8; | 02:11 |
| lifeless | ERROR 1005 (HY000): Can't create table 'heat.stack_lock' (errno: 150) | 02:11 |
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| asalkeld | can you have a quick look at my test? | 02:12 |
| lifeless | seems plausible | 02:13 |
| asalkeld | really irritating that the test doen't fail | 02:14 |
| lifeless | http://paste.openstack.org/show/55244/ | 02:14 |
| lifeless | current schema | 02:14 |
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| zaneb | lifeless: errno 150 means a problem with foreign keys... | 02:17 |
| zaneb | lifeless: http://stackoverflow.com/a/18180299 <- how to get the real error message | 02:18 |
| zaneb | ooh | 02:19 |
| zaneb | http://www.eliacom.com/mysql-gui-wp-errno-150.php | 02:19 |
| lifeless | https://bugs.launchpad.net/heat/+bug/1261605 - last comment | 02:20 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1261605 in heat "migration 30 -> 31 (031_stack_lock) fails" [Critical,In progress] | 02:20 |
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| stevebaker | spzala: good to hear | 02:38 |
| spzala | stevebaker: :-) sure. | 02:38 |
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| asalkeld | lifeless, http://paste.openstack.org/show/55253/ | 03:41 |
| asalkeld | that ^ works for me | 03:41 |
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| spzala | stevebaker: need some help. Can you please take a look at the link when you get a chance? - http://fpaste.org/62725/13873406/ | 04:24 |
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| SpamapS | stevebaker: BTW in the tripleo CD cloud we've started doing stack-update instead of delete/create .. so now if the stack create or update fails.. no retry == manual intervention == annoyed SpamapS | 04:29 |
| SpamapS | stevebaker: so that should motivate me to solve the retry problem soonish :) | 04:29 |
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| stevebaker | spzala: are you running neutron or nova networking? | 04:36 |
| stevebaker | SpamapS: yeah, update would be super useful were it not for that | 04:36 |
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| spzala | stevebaker: it's nova | 04:37 |
| stevebaker | spzala: that template has a neutron security group | 04:38 |
| SpamapS | stevebaker: pretty straight forward.. just have to replace failed resources. | 04:38 |
| spzala | stevebaker: ahh, I see | 04:39 |
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| spzala | stevebaker: Thanks!! I will try it with neutron. | 04:43 |
| stevebaker | spzala: or just switch the template to use the ec2 security group | 04:44 |
| spzala | stevebaker: Cool. That's definitely better | 04:46 |
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| openstackgerrit | Stephen Sugden proposed a change to openstack/heat: Add PortCheck resource https://review.openstack.org/62078 | 05:06 |
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| sergmelikyan | Does someone here used pydev debugger with heat? | 05:41 |
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| stevebaker | sergmelikyan: only for unit tests | 06:01 |
| openstackgerrit | Stephen Sugden proposed a change to openstack/heat: Add PortCheck resource https://review.openstack.org/62078 | 06:01 |
| * sergmelikyan usually using PyCharm IDE for developing on python, that use pydev debugger for debugging | 06:02 | |
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| sergmelikyan | stevebaker, I have some issues with viewing frames - could not extract current scope variables | 06:03 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jenkins proposed a change to openstack/heat: Imported Translations from Transifex https://review.openstack.org/62551 | 06:06 |
| stevebaker | sergmelikyan: I'm not sure, it just works for me | 06:06 |
| sergmelikyan | I had simple setup with running pycharm on local machine and clean devstack on vm. | 06:06 |
| sergmelikyan | When trying to create simple stack, I stack with AuthenticationFailed error | 06:07 |
| sergmelikyan | https://github.com/openstack/heat/blob/master/heat/engine/clients.py#L122 | 06:07 |
| sergmelikyan | This line while executed no matter what uses 2.0 client for authentication | 06:07 |
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| sergmelikyan | http://paste.openstack.org/show/55267/ - traceback | 06:08 |
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| lifeless | asalkeld: by works-for-you do you mean makes-the-test-fail? | 06:17 |
| asalkeld | no, just to clean up you db dump | 06:17 |
| asalkeld | it's wipes the parameters | 06:17 |
| lifeless | oh right | 06:18 |
| lifeless | ah we have stuff in event - access keys etc | 06:19 |
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| asalkeld | it's easy to add to that script | 06:19 |
| asalkeld | you could just drop the event table | 06:20 |
| lifeless | + secret_access_keys in resources | 06:20 |
| asalkeld | I don't need it | 06:20 |
| lifeless | ok, just the stack table? | 06:20 |
| asalkeld | stack and template and creds | 06:20 |
| asalkeld | stack + foriegn keyed tables | 06:20 |
| lifeless | do you mean raw_template? | 06:21 |
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| asalkeld | yip | 06:21 |
| asalkeld | you could kill the actual template | 06:21 |
| asalkeld | I just want valid references | 06:21 |
| openstackgerrit | Angus Salkeld proposed a change to openstack/heat: Add migration test framework https://review.openstack.org/62796 | 06:24 |
| asalkeld | lifeless, this ^test now takes a sql dump | 06:24 |
| asalkeld | so you can see if it is reproducable by moving your sql dump to: heat/tests/db/pre_031_data.sql | 06:25 |
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| lifeless | asalkeld: I think I've sanitised, sec while I pull it down | 06:28 |
| lifeless | asalkeld: what gpg key do you want it crypted to? | 06:28 |
| asalkeld | can you get at my github public key? | 06:29 |
| lifeless | please wait while subkeys.pgp.net goes slow | 06:30 |
| asalkeld | lifeless, emailed you my pub key | 06:32 |
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| lifeless | asalkeld: lol, thats ssh | 06:36 |
| lifeless | asalkeld: t | 06:37 |
| lifeless | (1) Angus Salkeld <asalkeld@redhat.com> | 06:37 |
| lifeless | 2048 bit RSA key CA8CF34A, created: 2010-03-15 | 06:37 |
| lifeless | asalkeld: you ? | 06:37 |
| asalkeld | doh | 06:37 |
| asalkeld | yeah, that's me | 06:37 |
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| asalkeld | you can see I use gpg all day - not | 06:38 |
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| lifeless | asalkeld: well, lets see if you can decrypt it ;> | 06:48 |
| asalkeld | trying to see if I can even find the private key :( | 06:48 |
| asalkeld | ga | 06:48 |
| SpamapS | lifeless: converge is expensive | 06:49 |
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| lifeless | what makes it expensive? | 06:49 |
| SpamapS | lifeless: big stack.. you're going to bombard all of the resources with status updates from their respective API's. | 06:49 |
| SpamapS | That's the thinking anyway. | 06:50 |
| SpamapS | Update is "I know I want to make this change" | 06:50 |
| lifeless | SpamapS: async examination of reality | 06:50 |
| lifeless | SpamapS: did you see the etherpad about how I'd be inclined to tackle it? | 06:51 |
| SpamapS | Yes | 06:51 |
| lifeless | cool | 06:51 |
| SpamapS | And I championed that cause last week. | 06:51 |
| lifeless | \o/ | 06:51 |
| SpamapS | Rejected.. "Background threads are bad" | 06:51 |
| SpamapS | "Users can ask for it if they want it." | 06:51 |
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| lifeless | wtf | 06:52 |
| lifeless | heats entire operation is a background thread | 06:52 |
| lifeless | that argument makes no sense to me | 06:52 |
| SpamapS | lifeless: AFAICT, what will happen is users will have a cron job which pokes Heat to update its' view of reality because we don't want to have such cron jobs in heat-engine. | 06:52 |
| lifeless | that seems disasterous | 06:52 |
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| asalkeld | bbl, picking kids up | 06:53 |
| lifeless | I predict large clouds adding a feature to delay such requests | 06:53 |
| SpamapS | lifeless: I don't think it is disasterous, but I do think we could just let Heat do it without the user having to ask. | 06:53 |
| lifeless | on thebasis that everyone cronning them at 5m intervals leads to thundering herd problems | 06:54 |
| SpamapS | lifeless: You can't ask for two at one time on a single stack.. | 06:54 |
| SpamapS | lifeless: anyway, update is not going to turn into converge without a proposal. I think it is fine the way it is. You are more than welcome to present evidence to the contrary. | 06:54 |
| lifeless | what evidence would be sufficient? | 06:55 |
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| SpamapS | Dunno. I really think they are two wildly different things with valid use cases. | 06:55 |
| lifeless | ok, so we can circle back to it | 06:57 |
| lifeless | what i really care about is that we're now going to have to write code | 06:57 |
| lifeless | to query glance | 06:57 |
| lifeless | to figure out the image id for the image we name | 06:57 |
| lifeless | can we put that in the template at least? | 06:57 |
| lifeless | so that we'll get 'converge' on 'update' ? | 06:57 |
| SpamapS | I totally think that we should have a way for Heat to subscribe to notifications and/or poll at its own pace for status of background resources. But think that resolving reality with the stack is different than resolving the difference between two templates. | 06:57 |
| lifeless | SpamapS: I beg to differ, but now is not the time for that discussion. | 06:58 |
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| lifeless | SpamapS: I think you will come around to my opinion when you finish making robust rolling upgrades a reality ;) | 06:58 |
| lifeless | SpamapS: and are tired of writing bash loops that go while failed hit it again; fi | 06:58 |
| SpamapS | lifeless: we should add Glance resources to Heat that allow querying the ID associated with a name. That would work. | 06:59 |
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| lifeless | is that a heat bug, or a tripleo-heat-template bug? | 07:00 |
| SpamapS | both | 07:00 |
| SpamapS | Heat should be able to orchestrate the glance API, and t-h-t should take advantage of that. | 07:00 |
| lifeless | how easy is it? | 07:01 |
| SpamapS | lifeless: quite. I'm already through the boilerplate ;) | 07:01 |
| lifeless | cool, thanks | 07:01 |
| sergmelikyan | Desperately need some help :( Stack: http://paste.openstack.org/show/55269 Traceback: http://paste.openstack.org/show/55268 | 07:02 |
| sergmelikyan | DevStack + local Heat | 07:03 |
| sergmelikyan | Heat.conf: http://paste.openstack.org/show/55270 | 07:03 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jun Jie Nan proposed a change to openstack/heat: Avoid using python build-in class property https://review.openstack.org/62814 | 07:17 |
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| skraynev | morning | 07:17 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/heat: Don't pass swift headers as None https://review.openstack.org/62199 | 07:19 |
| sergmelikyan | May be something is misconfigured? | 07:25 |
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| sergmelikyan | Found my issue... https://answers.launchpad.net/heat/+question/238879 | 07:37 |
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| sergmelikyan | Adding auth_uri solved problem | 07:37 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/heat: Add support for rebuild --preserve-ephemeral. https://review.openstack.org/62520 | 07:54 |
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| asalkeld | lifeless, I have totally lost that private key, is there any reason to encrypt it, given that we have removed the passwords? | 08:03 |
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| shardy | morning | 08:24 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jun Jie Nan proposed a change to openstack/heat: Removed unused variables https://review.openstack.org/62827 | 08:59 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sushil Kumar proposed a change to openstack/python-heatclient: Updates .gitignore https://review.openstack.org/62174 | 09:31 |
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| shardy | therve: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Heat/Blueprints/InstanceUsers | 09:43 |
| shardy | therve: I thought stevebaker and ayoung were going to add some more ideas, but it doesn't look like they have | 09:44 |
| shardy | therve: comments/feedback etc appreciated :) | 09:45 |
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| openstackgerrit | Simon Pasquier proposed a change to openstack/heat: Simplify update_with_template() method https://review.openstack.org/62832 | 09:56 |
| therve | shardy, Thanks, will do | 10:06 |
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| sergmelikyan | https://review.openstack.org/61074 - 5 +1 and 1 +2, can someone look at this one more time? | 10:34 |
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| openstackgerrit | Pavlo Shchelokovskyy proposed a change to openstack/heat: Fix comparison with singletons https://review.openstack.org/61447 | 10:44 |
| openstackgerrit | Swann Croiset proposed a change to openstack/heat: Add autoscaling notifications https://review.openstack.org/62087 | 10:50 |
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| SnowDust | hello guys .. how to add multiple resources in DependsOn ? | 11:18 |
| SnowDust | anyone ? | 11:18 |
| SnowDust | no help from heat forum :D all sleeping i guess | 11:20 |
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| shardy | SnowDust: You can pass a list | 11:22 |
| shardy | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/51507/ | 11:22 |
| SnowDust | thanks .. shardy ! | 11:22 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/heat: Fix comparison with singletons https://review.openstack.org/61447 | 11:26 |
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| openstackgerrit | Serg Melikyan proposed a change to openstack/heat: Implements Nova FloatingIP resources https://review.openstack.org/62836 | 11:32 |
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| * sergmelikyan accidentally published draft change as "ready for review". Tests are terrible :( | 11:35 | |
| * sergmelikyan will appreciate any help with tests | 11:36 | |
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| shardy | sergmelikyan: Just mark it work in progress in the gerrit ui | 11:37 |
| shardy | then we can all see it and may have review feedback | 11:37 |
| sergmelikyan | shardy, thx, done | 11:37 |
| shardy | draft reviews you have to explicitly add reviewers for them to see it IIRC | 11:37 |
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| openstackgerrit | Pavlo Shchelokovskyy proposed a change to openstack/heat: Fix comparison with singletons https://review.openstack.org/62852 | 11:39 |
| sergmelikyan | I had marked all patchsets as published and changed status to Work in Progress, as you suggested | 11:40 |
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| openstackgerrit | Steven Hardy proposed a change to openstack/heat: SignalResponder, set resource_id in the correct place https://review.openstack.org/62862 | 12:16 |
| openstackgerrit | Steven Hardy proposed a change to openstack/heat: Correct create_trust_context docstring https://review.openstack.org/62436 | 12:24 |
| openstackgerrit | Steven Hardy proposed a change to openstack/heat: Add sanity check to ensure user_id can be trusted https://review.openstack.org/62437 | 12:24 |
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| openstackgerrit | Serg Melikyan proposed a change to openstack/heat: Implements Nova FloatingIP resources https://review.openstack.org/62836 | 12:29 |
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| sdake | morning | 14:18 |
| pshchelo | hi, can someone take a look at heat/engine/resource.py, line 421? what is the purpose of this except branch? it seems to me it is never executed, or I am missing something? | 14:22 |
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| therve | pshchelo, You're missing BaseException | 14:24 |
| shardy | pshchelo: It's related to some older eventlet code which incorrectly in herited GreenletExit from BaseException | 14:27 |
| shardy | And also, I think the scheduler code relies on GeneratorExit which is also derived from BaseException | 14:27 |
| therve | SystemExit too | 14:29 |
| shardy | Yeah, I guess there are a few corner cases we need to catch there | 14:29 |
| pshchelo | therve: aha, thanks. | 14:29 |
| pshchelo | shardy: no, according to docs starting from py2.6 GeneratorExit is a subclass of BAseException, SystemExit the same from py2.5 | 14:30 |
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| shardy | pshchelo: I thought that was what I just said | 14:31 |
| pshchelo | oops, misunderstood you | 14:31 |
| pshchelo | thanks for the hint! | 14:34 |
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| shardy | pshchelo: I actually had it wrong, Greenlet previously inherited from Exception, but it needed to inherit from BaseException, which is what we catch there | 14:35 |
| shardy | bug #1096150 has more details | 14:36 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1096150 in heat "Deleting RDS stack while DBInstance create in progress fails" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1096150 | 14:36 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/heat: Convert Instance to new Schema format https://review.openstack.org/61780 | 14:51 |
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| shardy | jasond`: Around? | 14:55 |
| jasond` | shardy: hey | 14:56 |
| shardy | jasond`: Hi, I think we're still breaking the gate with bug #1261433, or something similar :( | 14:57 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1261433 in heat "heat-tempest-xx already has an action (DELETE) in progress" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1261433 | 14:57 |
| shardy | See https://review.openstack.org/#/c/62436/ | 14:57 |
| jasond` | ugh, okay | 14:58 |
| jasond` | not sure why it says there were ERRORs in the logs http://logs.openstack.org/36/62436/2/gate/gate-tempest-dsvm-postgres-full/c3efd61/logs/screen-h-eng.txt.gz | 14:59 |
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| shardy | Yeah, I only see "WARNING heat.engine.stack_lock [-] Lock was already released on stack None" | 15:00 |
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| jasond` | ah http://logs.openstack.org/36/62436/2/gate/gate-tempest-dsvm-postgres-full/c3efd61/logs/screen-h-api.txt.gz | 15:01 |
| shardy | ouch | 15:01 |
| shardy | So we're not mapping the new exception correctly in the APIs | 15:02 |
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| jasond` | i guess not. will do some research and submit another patch | 15:04 |
| jasond` | thanks | 15:04 |
| jasond` | shardy: BTW, regarding your comment on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/62760/1 | 15:04 |
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| shardy | jasond`: yup | 15:06 |
| jasond` | as i understand it, there's a get() default that's applicable when the key doesn't exist and there's the actual property default that's applicable when the property isn't provided by the user. that patch just removes the get() default because the key always exists | 15:06 |
| jasond` | if the key doesn't exist, someone made a typo in the resource | 15:06 |
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| shardy | jasond`: Hmm, I see, yeah maybe you're right | 15:09 |
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| jasond` | shardy: yeah, it's confusing. that's why i thought it was important enough to submit a patch | 15:10 |
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| jasond` | there should be no functional difference introduced by it | 15:10 |
| shardy | jasond`: It is confusing, I agree. Hopefully zbitter can confirm the expected behavior of the new Schema getitem and add some feedback to the review | 15:11 |
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| jasond` | okay, i will wait for his comments | 15:13 |
| therve | jasond`, Presumably, the code is incorrect then (before and after) | 15:13 |
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| jasond` | therve: yeah, but this change wasn't to fix those bugs | 15:14 |
| therve | Ok, fair enough | 15:14 |
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| therve | I really don't like the fact that Properties is a mapping, because of things like that | 15:15 |
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| jasond` | shardy: i'll put a better description in the commit message to make it clearer | 15:15 |
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| shardy | jasond`: Odd, we're mapping ActionInProgress in FaultWrapper | 15:17 |
| shardy | jasond`: I guess the issue is tempest is trying to delete the stack twice? | 15:17 |
| jasond` | shardy: correct | 15:17 |
| jasond` | shardy: but it only does that when it feels like it :) | 15:18 |
| shardy | We should fix the tests, to either not do that, or tolerate in progress as a response | 15:18 |
| jasond` | i agree | 15:20 |
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| jasond` | shardy: i think it's happening here https://github.com/openstack/tempest/blob/master/tempest/api/orchestration/stacks/test_stacks.py#L69-L71 | 15:23 |
| shardy | jasond`: Why are we deleting twice tho? | 15:25 |
| jasond` | not sure | 15:25 |
| shardy | https://github.com/openstack/tempest/blob/master/tempest/api/orchestration/base.py#L86 | 15:26 |
| shardy | but that looks like it should tolerate the client exception | 15:27 |
| jasond` | if it's happening there, it's already trying to tolerate the exception. it's the ERROR message that's causing it to fail | 15:27 |
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| jasond` | i need to try to match up timestamps again to see where exactly it's happening | 15:28 |
| shardy | With debugging enabled the common/wsgi.py creates that error for known HeatExceptions | 15:31 |
| shardy | Which is probably wrong, if faultwrap can map them | 15:31 |
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| jasond` | shardy: are you saying ActionInProgress shouldn't be mapped in FaultWrapper? | 15:33 |
| shardy | jasond`: I'm saying it should, and it looks like it is, but we shouldn't log a stacktrace in the API when it happens | 15:34 |
| jasond` | oh ok | 15:34 |
| jasond` | shardy: it's happening for RequestLimitExceeded too (further up) | 15:36 |
| shardy | This faultwrap stuff has caused so many problems, I don't understand why it has to be so complex | 15:37 |
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| shardy | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/49155/ | 15:37 |
| shardy | That's where the logging was added, so maybe zbitter has some ideas on how to handle this | 15:38 |
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| zbitter | uh oh | 15:38 |
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| shardy | basically we want errors which happen in the engine to log the stacktrace there, and errors which happen in the API to log their stacktrace in the API log | 15:38 |
| shardy | and faultwrapper should map the responses without exposing the user to the stacktrace | 15:38 |
| shardy | zaneb: Hey, sorry, the dreaded faultwrapper has bitten us again :( | 15:39 |
| shardy | http://logs.openstack.org/36/62436/2/gate/gate-tempest-dsvm-postgres-full/c3efd61/logs/screen-h-api.txt.gz | 15:39 |
| shardy | tempest sees the ERROR and fails the test, but we're just logging a known exception which is mapped to an appropriate response AFAICS | 15:40 |
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| openstackgerrit | Steven Hardy proposed a change to openstack/heat: Correct assertEqual rsrc.state argument ordering https://review.openstack.org/62918 | 15:43 |
| openstackgerrit | Steven Hardy proposed a change to openstack/heat: autoscaling test correct self.assertEqual ordering https://review.openstack.org/62919 | 15:43 |
| openstackgerrit | Steven Hardy proposed a change to openstack/heat: SignalResponder, set resource_id in the correct place https://review.openstack.org/62862 | 15:43 |
| pafuent | jasond`: shardy: Maybe this could help. This review solve some of the errors in h-api https://review.openstack.org/#/c/62080/ | 15:44 |
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| shardy | pafuent: Interesting, thanks | 15:48 |
| shardy | pafuent: tbh, I'm not sure adding a new exception base class is the answer | 15:48 |
| shardy | e.g what makes StackNotFound an HeatClientException but not StackExists? | 15:49 |
| jasond` | pafuent: would the user see HTTPExceptionDisguise if debug mode is on? | 15:50 |
| andersonvom | hey folks, quick question regarding instance statuses: is it the case that if an instance is not ACTIVE, nor in one of the _deferred_states, then we should necessarily consider that an "error" state and blow up? | 15:50 |
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| shardy | andersonvom: Yes, that is the way we use server.status in the instance resource | 15:51 |
| pafuent | jasond`: The HTTPExceptionDisguise is needed in order to the exception reach the FaultWrapper | 15:52 |
| pafuent | shardy: I only change the exceptions that were related to bug, because I'm new here and I'm not sure which exceptions are candidates for the class that I added. | 15:53 |
| shardy | pafuent: That is exactly the problem IMO, expecting everyone to know which class to inherit from will just get us in even more of a mess IMO | 15:54 |
| shardy | pafuent: Thanks for the patch tho, it's a good start to the discussion :) | 15:54 |
| pafuent | shardy: :) | 15:55 |
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| andersonvom | shardy: so, yeah, if you look at Instance#_check_active, that's the current implementation, but I'm wondering if this is the case only because we're trying to attach the volume there as well. Meaning, the exception raising would be a part of volume attaching? Or is it really that any other state is necessarily an error? | 15:56 |
| zaneb | pafuent: "I'm not sure which exceptions are candidates for the class that I added" <- all of them, that's why an extra superclass is not the way to go | 15:56 |
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| openstackgerrit | Vijendar Komalla proposed a change to openstack/heat: Add _() to rackspace resource strings https://review.openstack.org/62922 | 15:59 |
| pafuent | zaneb: NoServiceEndpoint should not log an error? | 15:59 |
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| zaneb | shardy: so the answer is probably that we shouldn't log the stack trace for a HeatException... maybe just an info log or something for those ones? | 15:59 |
| shardy | andersonvom: well if Nova gives us a state we don't understand, how can we parse it and make any decision about it's error-ness? | 15:59 |
| shardy | zaneb: I guess, if any HeatException comes from the engine, we just don't log it, as it should already be logged in the engine? | 16:00 |
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| shardy | Or do we also derive exceptions from there in the API code.. | 16:00 |
| shardy | I'm fine with just s/ERROR/WARNING if it's easiest | 16:01 |
| shardy | it's a debug message afterall | 16:01 |
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| pafuent | shardy: So is better to log all HeatExceptions as warning instead of classifying them? | 16:08 |
| jasond` | shardy: it seems like test_stack_list_responds and test_stack_crud_no_resources are both trying to delete the same stack at the same time http://paste.openstack.org/show/55328/ | 16:09 |
| zaneb | so... when I wrote that logging code... I'm pretty sure I tested that it only logged exceptions generated in the API, and not ones from the engine | 16:09 |
| zaneb | I remember it vividly, because it's not like me to actually test something ;) | 16:10 |
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| zaneb | so it seems like maybe the wrapping that jasond` added on that particular exception is causing it to get logged there, when exceptions from the engine normally wouldn't? | 16:10 |
| jasond` | zaneb: this was from before i added the client_exceptions decorator http://logs.openstack.org/17/61717/4/check/check-tempest-dsvm-postgres-full/3b776c3/logs/screen-h-api.txt.gz | 16:12 |
| jasond` | (the engine exception/traceback still got logged in the api log) | 16:12 |
| zaneb | ugh, it's actually being logged *twice* as well | 16:13 |
| shardy | jasond`: So the tests should create stacks with unique names then.. | 16:13 |
| jasond` | shardy: yes, that would fix it | 16:14 |
| openstackgerrit | Vijendar Komalla proposed a change to openstack/python-heatclient: python-heatclient stack-abandon support https://review.openstack.org/62925 | 16:14 |
| shardy | jasond`: Are you happy to raise a tempest bug and send them a patch? | 16:14 |
| zaneb | shardy, jasond`: surely it goes without saying they should do that anyway??? | 16:14 |
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| shardy | zaneb: Absolutely, I'm suprised we don't | 16:15 |
| shardy | heat-tempest-1268516181 already has an action (DELETE) in progress. | 16:15 |
| shardy | That looks like a unique suffix, so possibly the crud test is trying to delete the stack created in the setUpClass or something? | 16:16 |
| jasond` | shardy: sure | 16:16 |
| jasond` | shardy: i don't understand how test_stack_list_responds is deleting a stack | 16:18 |
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| jasond` | shardy: ah, this is probably run after each test https://github.com/openstack/tempest/blob/master/tempest/api/orchestration/base.py#L117 | 16:21 |
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| shardy | I thought tearDownClass would only happen once per test-class, not for every test case like tearDown() | 16:22 |
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| shardy | https://github.com/openstack/tempest/blob/master/tempest/api/orchestration/base.py#L82 | 16:23 |
| jasond | shardy: maybe it's running after test_stack_list_responds and trying to delete the same stack that test_stack_crud_no_resources is deleting explicitly | 16:24 |
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| shardy | I think the issue is there, where test_stack_crud_no_resources uses the create_stack classmethod to create the stack | 16:24 |
| shardy | so it gets appended to the list of stacks to cleanup on test teardown, only it's already been deleted | 16:25 |
| andersonvom | shardy: sorry, network problems here. Thanks! | 16:25 |
| jasond | shardy: yeah, so we could either remove that append or remove the delete https://github.com/openstack/tempest/blob/master/tempest/api/orchestration/stacks/test_stacks.py#L69-L71 | 16:25 |
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| shardy | Or get the crud test to pop the stack off the list when it's deleted it | 16:26 |
| shardy | so then it's still deleted if that test fails before delete happens | 16:26 |
| zaneb | shardy: ++ | 16:27 |
| jasond | shardy: sounds good. i'll submit a bugfix for that | 16:27 |
| * shardy realizes usage of pop, stack, and list are confusing above.. ;) | 16:27 | |
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| shardy | jasond: thanks! | 16:27 |
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| openstackgerrit | Richard Lee proposed a change to openstack/heat: Refactor Instance#_check_active https://review.openstack.org/62478 | 16:30 |
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| zaneb | and is quite often _never read again_ | 18:06 |
| shardy | SpamapS: personally I spend way more time grepping code than commit messages | 18:07 |
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| zaneb | yeah, I would much sooner -1 for user-facing stuff like docs. those should actually be fixed | 18:08 |
| SpamapS | shardy: your implication that one who does carefully check the commit message does not carefully check the code is flippant and a lesser man than I might take that personally. | 18:08 |
| SpamapS | zaneb: when the commit message is read.. it is often in a critical regression-hunting situation. The other time is when new contributors are trying to answer the question of why something is the way it is. | 18:09 |
| zaneb | SpamapS: I don't think you were the target of that comment, but I do think you're setting an example for the people who are the target of that comment, and I'm not talking about your thorough code reviews (which would be an excellent example to follow) | 18:09 |
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| zaneb | (shardy's comment, that is) | 18:10 |
| shardy | SpamapS: Well it was not meant to be personal, I was trying to say that we should foster a culture of critcical technical review over cosmetic proof-reading | 18:10 |
| shardy | I've already been shot-down on the ML for suggsting that we have a lot of the latter, so probably I should just shut up and get back to coding | 18:10 |
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| zaneb | look, nobody here is more pedantic than I am | 18:13 |
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| SpamapS | shardy: aye, me too. Again, I do value your and Zane's positions very much, even if I do not share the position. | 18:14 |
| zaneb | but having lived in a country where I speak the language like a retarded 3-year-old... | 18:14 |
| zaneb | I appreciate not having everybody on my case about it, and I am more than happy to extend the same courtesy to others - especially non-native speakers - when their meaning is clear | 18:14 |
| SpamapS | zaneb: I think we should be extremely sensitive to that definitely. That was discussed on openstack-dev a while back and it was agreed that it is appropriate but do be clear and correct thigns explicitly, don't just say "this is wrong". | 18:17 |
| openstackgerrit | Lars Kellogg-Stedman proposed a change to openstack/python-heatclient: add output-list and output-show https://review.openstack.org/60591 | 18:17 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/heat: Add an external gateway property to neutron router https://review.openstack.org/60118 | 18:19 |
| * SpamapS starts testing update/retry | 18:19 | |
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| lifeless | As a retarded three year old in training, I want correction :) | 18:43 |
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| zaneb | lifeless: right :) I'm not saying don't correct, I'm saying there's a time to stall the work pipeline over it and a time when that's not warranted | 18:45 |
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| lifeless | one of the things I think causes this to be a source of agnst is long (day+ review turnarounds) | 18:46 |
| shardy | lifeless: In comparison to other projects *cough*keystone*cough* our review turnaround is postively super-sonic ;) | 18:47 |
| shardy | wow my typing is really bad today, must be all this talk of trivial typos ;) | 18:48 |
| zaneb | lifeless: I think that's true | 18:49 |
| shardy | lifeless: I agree we can and should do better tho | 18:49 |
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| lifeless | shardy: I meant no critique :) | 18:50 |
| sdake | our reviews are the fastest of many openstack projects, however, where we fail is when some reviews take some time, they fall to the end of the gerrit list, and review fatigue sets in - with no clearing of the backlog | 18:50 |
| sdake | one solution to that is to start at the *last* review once in awhile :) | 18:50 |
| zaneb | I have 167 unread emails in my Gerrit mailbox right now | 18:50 |
| lifeless | Ihttp://russellbryant.net/openstack-stats/heat-openreviews.html | 18:50 |
| lifeless | 3rd quartile wait time: 2 days, 8 hours, 25 minutes | 18:50 |
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| zaneb | every time someone posts another patchset, that's 3 more | 18:51 |
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| zaneb | multiply that by the number of people on the review... | 18:51 |
| lifeless | -> 25% of the current open reviews have been waiting > 2d8h without getting a negative feedback | 18:51 |
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| zaneb | new patchsets are expensive; they are a proxy for reviewer attention. that's one reason I try to conserve them | 18:51 |
| shardy | lifeless: which is way better than almost any other openstack project, except tripleo | 18:52 |
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| zaneb | lifeless: we used to be *much* better but things have just exploded since the last summit | 18:52 |
| shardy | you guys are reviewing machines! | 18:52 |
| shardy | http://russellbryant.net/openstack-stats/tripleo-openreviews.html | 18:52 |
| zaneb | in terms of numbers of contributions | 18:53 |
| lifeless | zaneb: a good problem to have | 18:53 |
| zaneb | lifeless: indeed :) and I think we are close to having trained up some more core reviewers | 18:53 |
| lifeless | shardy: well, we got together as a team, and I've been thrilled with the results | 18:53 |
| shardy | lifeless: Hopefully we will be able to expand -core to cope with the number of patches, but it takes time as you know | 18:53 |
| lifeless | the latency on increasing -core bandwidth is a necessary evil I think | 18:54 |
| shardy | yeah | 18:54 |
| jasond | shardy: can you look at this? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/62938/ | 18:54 |
| shardy | jasond: my preference would be to break out the class create_stack, so it cab be used without updating the stacks list | 18:57 |
| zaneb | shardy: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/60607/ <- WTF? | 18:57 |
| shardy | then register additional cleanup for that test to remove it | 18:57 |
| shardy | jasond: it will be a bit more work, but better in the long run, IMO | 18:57 |
| stevebaker | morning | 18:58 |
| shardy | zaneb: lol, that looks really wrong | 18:58 |
| shardy | hey stevebaker | 18:58 |
| zaneb | stevebaker: what's the though behind having a tenant_id property for a router? | 18:59 |
| zaneb | thought | 18:59 |
| shardy | Can users create routers in tenants other than that they have a token scoped to? | 19:00 |
| zaneb | doubt it | 19:00 |
| shardy | I suspect not, unless neutron is more broken than I thought | 19:00 |
| stevebaker | I think it is an admin-only property | 19:00 |
| zaneb | I suspect that what we're looking at here is a whole other use case that we're in the process of implementing in a very ad-hoc way | 19:00 |
| zaneb | maybe we need to step back here | 19:00 |
| zaneb | it seems to me that the use case is something other than a cloud, it's basically a Neutron-only deployment and the people managing it are all operator-administrators | 19:01 |
| zaneb | stevebaker: how am I doing? | 19:01 |
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| zaneb | (NetDHCPAgent and RouterL3Agent also fall in this category) | 19:04 |
| jasond | shardy: hm, not sure i follow. | 19:04 |
| jasond | stevebaker: FYI https://review.openstack.org/#/c/62938/ | 19:04 |
| shardy | jasond: Just about to stop for some food before the meeting, I'll add some comments later | 19:05 |
| stevebaker | zaneb: I'm not sure, they probably need to elaborate on their use cases | 19:05 |
| jasond | shardy: okay, thanks | 19:05 |
| shardy | jasond: If what you have is acceptable to the tempest folks, we can go with it and I'll post a followup with the refactoring | 19:06 |
| jasond | shardy: sounds good | 19:06 |
| stevebaker | zaneb: for example, tripleo could use heat to set up neutron (but currently don't plan to) https://github.com/openstack/tripleo-incubator/blob/master/scripts/setup-neutron | 19:08 |
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| SpamapS | zaneb: TripleO can use this. | 19:09 |
| zaneb | ok, that makes sense. my question is should we be coming up with a way to expose this only to administrators | 19:09 |
| SpamapS | zaneb: it would replace this https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/tripleo-incubator/tree/scripts/setup-neutron | 19:09 |
| stevebaker | zaneb: I think if we just document admin properties as such. Any attempt to use by non-admin will raise a neutron error | 19:10 |
| zaneb | new rule: no new properties without descriptions | 19:11 |
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| SpamapS | zaneb: +1 | 19:12 |
| stevebaker | or schema conversions | 19:13 |
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| openstackgerrit | Pablo Andres Fuente proposed a change to openstack/heat: wsgi.Resource exception handling to not log errors https://review.openstack.org/62080 | 19:15 |
| zaneb | stevebaker: all schema conversions should be in the review queue already | 19:19 |
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| stevebaker | zaneb: maybe we should use judicious use of -2 on some other changes to give the schema changes a chance of landing | 19:21 |
| zaneb | stevebaker: it's probably quicker to go review all the ones that already have one +2 ;) | 19:22 |
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| stevebaker | yup | 19:23 |
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| jasond | stevebaker: i entered this a couple of days ago https://blueprints.launchpad.net/heat/+spec/stop-delete-stack should i close it in favor of https://bugs.launchpad.net/heat/+bug/1262012 ? | 19:27 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1262012 in heat "Cannot delete an IN_PROGRESS stack" [High,Triaged] | 19:27 |
| stevebaker | jasond: its a regression, so lets use the bug | 19:28 |
| jasond | ok | 19:28 |
| jasond | um, how do I delete the BP? | 19:30 |
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| stevebaker | jasond: mark it as superceded or obsolete, and remove the milestone | 19:40 |
| jasond | stevebaker: done, thanks | 19:40 |
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| stevebaker | meeting time all | 20:00 |
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| openstackgerrit | Chmouel Boudjnah proposed a change to openstack/python-heatclient: Show better error when json fail to parse template https://review.openstack.org/62311 | 20:07 |
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| openstackgerrit | Chmouel Boudjnah proposed a change to openstack/python-heatclient: Show better error when json fail to parse template https://review.openstack.org/62311 | 20:10 |
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| openstackgerrit | Clint "SpamapS" Byrum proposed a change to openstack/heat: Retry failed actions on update https://review.openstack.org/62936 | 20:22 |
| SushilKM | while writing the heat template, can we accomodate any conditions, that some part of template runs for some condition only like for example volume provisioning | 20:22 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/heat: Fix misused assertTrue in unit tests https://review.openstack.org/61816 | 20:30 |
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| openstackgerrit | Pablo Andres Fuente proposed a change to openstack/heat: Added tenant_id property to OS::Neutron::Router https://review.openstack.org/60607 | 20:54 |
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| shardy | SushilKM: No, you have to conditionally generate the template, e.g in a wrapper script | 21:01 |
| shardy | SushilKM: Heat doesn't support conditionals or loops etc in the template DSL | 21:01 |
| SpamapS | SushilKM: what condition do you want exactly? | 21:04 |
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| openstackgerrit | Steven Hardy proposed a change to openstack/heat: Fix SignalResponder signature response when deleted https://review.openstack.org/62987 | 21:09 |
| openstackgerrit | Steven Hardy proposed a change to openstack/heat: Add test coverage for SignalResponder delete https://review.openstack.org/62988 | 21:09 |
| openstackgerrit | Steven Hardy proposed a change to openstack/heat: SignalResponder store access/secret in resource data https://review.openstack.org/62440 | 21:09 |
| openstackgerrit | Steven Hardy proposed a change to openstack/heat: heat_keystoneclient revise get_ec2_keypair https://review.openstack.org/62441 | 21:10 |
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| grncdr | so sorry for the amount of spam I generated with this changeset, I think it's ready for more review now: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/62078/ | 21:29 |
| grncdr | there's a −1 from Liang but I don't know if I agree with it ;) | 21:29 |
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| zaneb | grncdr: yeah, he's right, we don't want to be creating threads | 21:33 |
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| grncdr | oh? | 21:34 |
| grncdr | sorry I'm not sure if you mean OS-level threads or eventlet coro's | 21:34 |
| grncdr | if greenpool is creating an OS-level thread that definitely wasn't my intention | 21:34 |
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| grncdr | if creating eventlet threads/coro's is undesirable, then I guess I need to find a way to lower timeouts for the serialized connect calls? | 21:35 |
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| zaneb | sorry, I tend to use the term thread and greenlet interchangeably | 21:35 |
| sdake | zaneb heresy ;) | 21:36 |
| zaneb | grncdr: so, first thing to note is that we already have a defined workflow for polling a bunch of things: https://github.com/openstack/heat/blob/master/heat/engine/scheduler.py#L330 | 21:36 |
| zaneb | sdake: eventlet's claims of thread safety are so worthless that they might as well be threads | 21:37 |
| sdake | lol | 21:37 |
| zaneb | grncdr: that doesn't solve the problem of really long timeouts... best fix there is probably to go with a shorter timeout | 21:38 |
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| SpamapS | So I don't really understand the hesitance to use greenlets for that. | 21:46 |
| SpamapS | heat.engine.scheduler will basically do the same though, right? | 21:47 |
| asalkeld | SpamapS, scheduler uses co-routines not greenlet | 21:50 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/heat: rackspace: Convert Scaling resources to new Schema format https://review.openstack.org/61827 | 21:53 |
| SpamapS | asalkeld: right so they would not do parallel I/O even | 21:53 |
| asalkeld | well making greenlet thread in a resource is a problem as it blocks from the scheduler's point of view | 21:54 |
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| asalkeld | so no more resouce concurrency | 21:54 |
| SpamapS | ahh battling concurrency models | 21:54 |
| asalkeld | yip | 21:55 |
| zaneb | SpamapS: this would be the first place where we ever use greenlets in a resource | 21:55 |
| zaneb | we wrote that scheduler crap specifically so we would not ever have to do this | 21:55 |
| SpamapS | zaneb: roger that | 21:55 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/heat: Correct create_trust_context docstring https://review.openstack.org/62436 | 21:55 |
| SpamapS | so then the right thing to do is to setup a non blocking connect and use that instead of eventlet.connect ? | 21:55 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/heat: Add sanity check to ensure user_id can be trusted https://review.openstack.org/62437 | 21:56 |
| zaneb | I don't think there is such thing as a non-blocking connect, is there? | 21:56 |
| zaneb | we would have to set a small-ish timeout | 21:56 |
| zaneb | and make sure we only do one per yield | 21:56 |
| SpamapS | zaneb: yes all python I/O can be non-blocking | 21:57 |
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| zaneb | luckily the PollingTaskGroup can handle the latter easily | 21:57 |
| SpamapS | shorter timeout will waste more of the engine's time | 21:57 |
| SpamapS | I'm still in the "I know this is weird and new but I think it makes sense" camp. :-P | 22:00 |
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| SpamapS | Lots of things "block" during their create / check methods. | 22:01 |
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| SpamapS | grncdr: one thing though... is it really all that necessary to optimize this? | 22:02 |
| SpamapS | grncdr: like can't you just block on any one of them for as long as it takes? | 22:03 |
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| SpamapS | if they were a logical OR ... parallel would make more sense.. but they are an AND | 22:03 |
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| zaneb | SpamapS: yep, and PollingTaskGroup does exactly that | 22:06 |
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| SpamapS | zaneb: yeah, that seems much more sane. I don't even think the timeout needs lowering. | 22:10 |
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| zaneb | SpamapS, grncdr: I added a comment to that effect | 22:15 |
| grncdr | sorry I had/have some ongoing interrupts at the moment :( will read the comments and fix/reply on gerrit | 22:17 |
| sdake | matahari flashbacks on openstack-dev ml | 22:17 |
| zaneb | orly? | 22:17 |
| sdake | some cat debating c++ vs python | 22:17 |
| sdake | because of footprint | 22:17 |
| sdake | imo should have wrote his agent in c ;-) | 22:18 |
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| sdake | if it hurts, dont do it | 22:18 |
| sdake | so far I've seen 5, count em 5, unified management agent programs derailed in my career | 22:19 |
| sdake | pretty sure this unified agent in openstack will be #6 ;-) | 22:19 |
| zaneb | sdake: which thread are we talking about? | 22:19 |
| sdake | my thoughts on the unified guest agent | 22:20 |
| zaneb | ah | 22:20 |
| sdake | the long and arduous one which you have probably tuned out by now ;) | 22:20 |
| zaneb | I never even got started on it | 22:20 |
| zaneb | still have 94 unread emails just in [heat] :( | 22:20 |
| sdake | probably bring back some PTSD - recommend avoiding ;) | 22:20 |
| zaneb | lol | 22:21 |
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| zaneb | I escaped fairly cleanly in the end ;) | 22:21 |
| sdake | yes, yes you did ;) | 22:21 |
| zaneb | I notice the matahariproject.org domain has been taken over by spammers | 22:22 |
| openstackgerrit | Zane Bitter proposed a change to openstack/heat: Convert Neutron resources to new Schema format https://review.openstack.org/61823 | 22:23 |
| sdake | heat-api.org up for renewal | 22:23 |
| sdake | probably going to let it lapse | 22:23 |
| sdake | be some good popcorn material see what the domain squatters do with it | 22:23 |
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| stevebaker | shardy: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Heat/Blueprints/InstanceUsers#5._Resource-scoped_virtual_keypairs <- you may want to add some Cons ;) | 22:24 |
| openstackgerrit | Jason Dunsmore proposed a change to openstack/heat: Allow an in-progress stack to be deleted https://review.openstack.org/63002 | 22:29 |
| zaneb | sdake: he disagrees with having a single standard for RPC? that's... weird | 22:33 |
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| wirehead_ | I know what I, were I to be a domain squatter, would do with it. | 22:36 |
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| zaneb | wirehead_: do tell :) | 22:38 |
| wirehead_ | http://xkcd.com/624/ | 22:39 |
| zaneb | well played | 22:40 |
| * wirehead_ bows | 22:40 | |
| stevebaker | I think I'll suggest every second heat meeting favours Asia over Europe http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converted.html?iso=20140116T14&p1=2095&p2=0&p3=179&p4=137&p5=47&p6=33 | 22:41 |
| stevebaker | 0100 UTC | 22:41 |
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| zaneb | ugh 8pm :( | 22:44 |
| stevebaker | yeah, i know | 22:44 |
| stevebaker | zaneb: if you had a choice of slightly earlier or slightly later which would you prefer? | 22:45 |
| zaneb | earlier | 22:45 |
| stevebaker | 7pm? | 22:46 |
| zaneb | would be better | 22:46 |
| stevebaker | 8am might be a bit early for china office commuters | 22:46 |
| zaneb | but probably more important that folks like liang can join | 22:46 |
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| grncdr | ok, so I am getting rid of the greenlet pool and just doing the checks one after another, is using eventlet.connect still ok? or should I be using asyncore? | 22:49 |
| grncdr | I was under the impression that using eventlet.connect would make my resource yield control | 22:49 |
| grncdr | which I think it does, but maybe not to the right "level" | 22:49 |
| grncdr | e.g. do I need to use something different to cooperate with heat.engine.scheduler | 22:50 |
| SpamapS | sdake: the fact that you've seen so many agent unification efforts derailed is a nice piece of data actually. | 22:50 |
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| zaneb | grncdr: how long is the timeout on connect? | 22:50 |
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| grncdr | I believe it's OS specific? | 22:51 |
| grncdr | default is something like 60 seconds on most systems though | 22:51 |
| grncdr | I could also go with the stdlib socket module | 22:52 |
| grncdr | and set the timeout manually | 22:52 |
| grncdr | as far as I can tell that would block the whole process though | 22:52 |
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| grncdr | eventlet.connect has no way to set timeouts, so I could create my own timeout and catch it, but that adds a lot of complication | 22:54 |
| grncdr | s/complication/complexity/ | 22:55 |
| zaneb | grncdr: make_connection() allows you to set the timeout, no? | 22:55 |
| grncdr | I don't know make_connection... | 22:56 |
| SpamapS | grncdr: eventlet has already monkeypatched the low level socket stuff, so may as well use eventlet.connect(). | 22:56 |
| grncdr | you mean socket.socket.create_connection? | 22:56 |
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| zaneb | er, yes | 22:57 |
| grncdr | SpamapS: that's what I was thinking, but I wanted to get feedback here before spamming everybody with another review notification ;) | 22:59 |
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| grncdr | that being said, if (stdlib) socket is already monkey-patched | 22:59 |
| grncdr | then maybe socket.create_connection makes more sense | 22:59 |
| SpamapS | grncdr: the timeout stuff.. I'm also suspicious that you even need that. | 23:00 |
| grncdr | SpamapS: honestly, *I* don't | 23:00 |
| grncdr | I only need one port per resource | 23:00 |
| SpamapS | the stack has a timeout.. it will give up eventually... :) | 23:00 |
| grncdr | right, I was worried about causing the stack to give up incorrectly though | 23:01 |
| grncdr | if you have say a 5min timeout on the resource, and 60s timeout on each connect... | 23:02 |
| grncdr | hm, you know what, I think I just rubberducked myself out of the idea | 23:02 |
| SpamapS | :) | 23:02 |
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| openstackgerrit | Stephen Sugden proposed a change to openstack/heat: Add PortCheck resource https://review.openstack.org/62078 | 23:03 |
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| zaneb | grncdr: did you intend to push that? it looks the same | 23:05 |
| grncdr | huh? it looks different to me... | 23:05 |
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| grncdr | how do I diff against the previous patchset again? | 23:05 |
| zaneb | ok, technically it's different | 23:06 |
| zaneb | but it's still checking every port on every loop | 23:06 |
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| zaneb | (go to Patch Sets up the top when you're looking at a diff) | 23:07 |
| grncdr | ah there, found it | 23:07 |
| grncdr | zaneb: yes it is? I obviously missed some feedback there | 23:07 |
| grncdr | also it's only checking ports that haven't successfully connected | 23:07 |
| * grncdr is re-reading previous review comment | 23:08 | |
| zaneb | grncdr: the feedback you missed was to use the PollingTaskGroup | 23:08 |
| zaneb | which implements the same algorithm, except better (yields as soon as one fails) | 23:09 |
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| grncdr | I see | 23:10 |
| zaneb | reuse ftw | 23:10 |
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| SpamapS | embrace the scheduler :) | 23:14 |
| SpamapS | until we go to taskflow | 23:14 |
| SpamapS | at which point... eschew the scheduler ;) | 23:14 |
| zaneb | why can't I buy a Nokia 108 in the US? | 23:16 |
| zaneb | it's only available in tinpot countries, like... France | 23:16 |
| zaneb | :( | 23:16 |
| grncdr | gah, I'm getting more confused now… do I run this PollingTaskGroup (using it's __call__) or do I yield it from my handle_create and assume that the engine knows what to do with it? | 23:19 |
| grncdr | s/yield/return/ | 23:19 |
| zaneb | grncdr: PollingTaskGroup is a task, so you pass it to TaskRunner the same as you were doing with self._wait | 23:20 |
| * grncdr slaps forehead | 23:20 | |
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| openstackgerrit | Stephen Sugden proposed a change to openstack/heat: Add PortCheck resource https://review.openstack.org/62078 | 23:23 |
| grncdr | crap, ignore that | 23:24 |
| openstackgerrit | Stephen Sugden proposed a change to openstack/heat: Add PortCheck resource https://review.openstack.org/62078 | 23:25 |
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