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| jimbaker | Syed__, so i think i made good progress on the rbac stuff yesterday. hope to have my results summarized soon in a spec, but the gist of it, i believe i understand best how to combine the scoped role assignments with policy.json rules | 16:33 |
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| Syed__ | That would be awesome to put up a spec for that. Been playing around with it lately | 16:36 |
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| jimbaker | sure, it will be an extension of that blueprint of course. should have a simple script to try out ideas, once i finish meetings and some outstanding HR work | 16:48 |
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| jimbaker | harlowja, just curious, was there any update to zipkin support in openstack since this talk - https://openstacksummitapril2013.sched.com/event/10gGvjb/zipkin-tracing-in-openstack ? | 18:35 |
| harlowja | ah | 18:36 |
| harlowja | u found that, lol | 18:36 |
| harlowja | damn | 18:36 |
| harlowja | lol | 18:36 |
| harlowja | jimbaker so osprofiler was the successor to that | 18:37 |
| harlowja | the yahoo guy who did the zipkin initial POC moved to another project | 18:37 |
| harlowja | http://docs.openstack.org/developer/osprofiler/ is pretty much the next-gen of that | 18:37 |
| harlowja | http://docs.openstack.org/developer/osprofiler/similar_projects.html | 18:37 |
| jimbaker | harlowja, thanks. zipkin was in a discussion this morning i had, and a quick google search found that talk. just not any successor work. it looks like someone should do the obvious bridge still to zipkin however... | 18:42 |
| harlowja | jimbaker ya, i think the hardest part wasn't the bridge | 18:42 |
| harlowja | it was the integration into projects :-/ | 18:43 |
| harlowja | osprofiler still struggles with even that | 18:43 |
| harlowja | cause people get all antsy about changing there stuff with tracepoints | 18:43 |
| harlowja | i'd assume it'd be somewhat easy to put zipkin into https://github.com/openstack/osprofiler/tree/master/osprofiler/drivers (?) | 18:43 |
| jimbaker | yep, this is the usual | 18:43 |
| harlowja | the guy at yahoo, and i think boris who started the osprofiler stuff after the yahoo guy got pretty frustrated with the amount of pain to change things in projects for tracing | 18:44 |
| harlowja | there was a bunch of back and forth around 'why is this useful' and ... | 18:44 |
| jimbaker | harlowja, i will take a look. looks like drivers are on the order of a couple pages of code | 18:44 |
| harlowja | jimbaker feel free to jump into #openstack-performance | 18:45 |
| harlowja | that's where more of the osprofiler people are | 18:45 |
| jimbaker | harlowja, got it, thanks | 18:45 |
| jimbaker | for now, i want to ensure craton doesn't leave stuff out what we should be doing | 18:45 |
| harlowja | ya, tracing support would be nice | 18:45 |
| jimbaker | so 1. this means we should integrate with osprofiler. do the right thing | 18:45 |
| jimbaker | 2. if we want zipkin, do the obvious driver | 18:46 |
| jimbaker | simple, nice, thanks! | 18:46 |
| harlowja | np | 18:46 |
| harlowja | i'd check with the osprofiler folks on where they are at | 18:46 |
| harlowja | http://opentracing.io/ is something very much similar to osprofiler | 18:46 |
| harlowja | but still requires integration points | 18:46 |
| harlowja | integration/instrumenting points | 18:47 |
| jimbaker | presumably following zipkin/dapper model, just standard data header... | 18:47 |
| jimbaker | harlowja, so ideally osprofiler is just one possible way of implementing opentracing, life is good | 18:48 |
| harlowja | osprofiler came before i heard of opentracing; the code is similar (as expected) | 18:49 |
| harlowja | but yes that could be a possible way this all goes | 18:49 |
| jimbaker | harlowja, in other news, i started indoor bouldering last month. good fun. especially the part about overcoming my fear of heights | 18:49 |
| harlowja | nice | 18:49 |
| harlowja | prob a bunch of good places around u | 18:49 |
| jimbaker | indoor and outdoor, yes | 18:50 |
| jimbaker | it's called *boulder* for a reason | 18:50 |
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| harlowja | :) | 18:59 |
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| harlowja | jimbaker let me know when u get to V6 and beyond :-P | 19:06 |
| harlowja | ha | 19:06 |
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| jimbaker | harlowja, it's going to be a while. right now i'm happily doing V0/V1 :) | 20:17 |
| harlowja | :) | 20:17 |
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