Tuesday, 2016-11-29

jimbakerjust to be clear: i don't see a need to implement exclusive scopes for now (or possibly at all). they can always be modeled by just doing a more fine grained assignment00:07
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jimbakersyed__, blueprint for rbac - https://blueprints.launchpad.net/craton/+spec/craton-rbac-support01:50
jimbakervery much preliminary!01:50
jimbakersyed__, i suggest experimenting with defining productions in oslo.policy; and experimenting with how to implement kind support01:51
jimbakervia the corresponding registration01:51
jimbakershould be fun code01:51
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sulojimbaker: ah ok, i havent tested on osX11:04
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tojuvoneHi, Now got my devstack multinode and Craton running so can finally do something.15:17
sigmavirustojuvone: awesome! If you want, you can send some documentation bits about how you did that. I'm sure others will want to do something similar15:25
sigmavirusEven if it's just the steps/commands you used to get that set-up, that would be valuable15:26
jimbaker+1, always can use more docs15:27
tojuvonesigmavirus: Basically I mean I got an env for me to work with15:28
jimbakersigmavirus, sulo, blueprint on rbac - https://blueprints.launchpad.net/craton/+spec/craton-rbac-support15:28
tojuvoneso could start to do actualyl something15:28
jimbakerfor rbac, still need to detail production rules and support for custom rules to actually enable support. but those hopefully are impl details15:30
tojuvoneJust followed the instructions: http://craton.readthedocs.io/en/latest/dev/install.html15:30
jimbakertojuvone, always glad the instructions work :)15:31
tojuvonejimbaker: yes, there was some bug, but I think the page was already fixed15:32
jimbakerreminds me of when i was renting an airbnb apartment. i could not get the door to open15:32
jimbakerturns out that the owner must have - without thinking - subtly pushed the door in a certain way. just a little extra and the door opens. i had just to rediscover at midnight that approach :)15:33
tojuvonesurely had some problem to have alternate python version on host15:33
jimbakertojuvone, in terms of python 3.5 ?15:34
tojuvonejimbaker 3.615:34
jimbakerahh, bleeding edge. good stuff15:34
tojuvoneOtherwise using 2.7 on the host15:35
jimbakerreasonable pairing. i should start trying out 3.6. especially looking forward to the speed boost provided by its new wordcode vm15:37
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jimbakersyed__, https://blueprints.launchpad.net/craton/+spec/craton-rbac-support15:38
sigmavirusjimbaker: I'll review that asp15:39
jimbakersyed__, btw, you mentioned flask rbac. i don't think that will come up in our work, although it looks fine15:39
sigmavirus*asap even15:40
jimbakerjust a different approach15:40
tojuvoneSo, maybe I should start with something? Would I already be able to have my Craton DB derived from Nova?15:40
jimbakertojuvone, the craton db is going to be a separate db than nova, although it can certainly co-reside on say the same db server15:41
jimbakersyed__, so you will want to focus on olso.policy, especially on how enforcers work; and how to write custom rule checks15:42
jimbakersyed__, i need to dig into that code as well, so it will be good joint exploration15:42
jimbakeri'm sure a good starting point is to see how keystone actually uses these apis - the docs for oslo.policy are not exactly exhaustive15:43
syed__jimbaker: thanks for blueprint will review rn15:45
tojuvonejimbaker: ok. I'm just looking my use case of "compute host maintenance" and wondering what to do.15:46
syed__will review the links you send15:46
jimbakertojuvone, yeah, perfectly understand15:46
jimbakertojuvone, btw, are you interested in joining our vidyo call in just over 1 hour?15:47
jimbakerwe schedule it so it works for people in europe15:47
jimbakergit-harry and sulo are in the UK15:47
jimbakertojuvone, so back to your use case15:49
tojuvonehave to bring my kid to soccer in an hour from now.. so can, but not in very beginning15:49
jimbakertojuvone, no worries, when you can join it, that's great15:51
jimbakerhere's the link - https://vc.rackspace.com/flex.html?roomdirect.html&key=OpmgbcmKWcXB31Tbl7VHgTrytb0​15:51
tojuvonejimbaker: Cool :)15:52
jimbakerwe were good in the past of recording and archiving these video calls onto youtube, something we have to start doing again15:52
tojuvoneDo you use the irc at the same time?15:54
tojuvoneopenstack-meeting-4?15:54
jimbakertojuvone, tues we focus on ecosystem/client, so today works well15:56
jimbakertojuvone, irc is only for monday meetings15:56
jimbakeri have a task to update the sadly neglected https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/craton-meetings15:56
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jimbakerbut we have been following that template15:56
jimbaker(it was just that we used to have another person who used to help on that update... and then barcelona)15:57
jimbakerand of course #craton is always around15:57
tojuvoneok15:58
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jimbakersorry, forgot to send meeting ping earlier17:00
jimbakerso doing so now17:00
jimbakerpalendae, sigmavirus, sulo, syed__, tojuvone  - client/ecosystem meeting17:01
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sulohttps://bugs.launchpad.net/craton/+bug/164335617:31
openstackLaunchpad bug 1643356 in craton "API: inconsistent network endpoint names" [Low,Confirmed] - Assigned to Sulochan Acharya (sulochan-acharya)17:31
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sulook i gotta head out .. c y'all later18:02
tojuvonesulo: see you18:03
tojuvoneI also need to go read some fairy tale :D Thank you guys and looking forward to work with you.18:05
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jimbakertojuvone, thanks for joining us here! and enjoy your evening. reading aloud to kids is just great18:14
jimbakeralso i found such reading aloud to kids helped a lot for me for my public speaking :)18:15
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sigmavirusjimbaker: I've been looking at that blueprint when I have time, I'm intrigued. Also, why are you using newton milestone? Newton's released. We're in the Ocata cycle now20:28
jimbakersigmavirus, i left the milestone as it was, without realizing that :)20:30
jimbakerso yes, definitely wrong milestone for that, and most of the blueprints there20:30
jimbakeralso thanks for your description!20:31
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