Friday, 2022-05-13

airship-irc-bot<ildiko> @gmarcy Hi! Thank you for reaching out.20:29
airship-irc-bot<ildiko> Airship is a deployment and lifecycle management tool that you can deploy Kubernetes and OpenStack in containers with20:29
airship-irc-bot<ildiko> It works with helm charts and uses yaml files under the hood20:30
airship-irc-bot<ildiko> That project is for managing a bare metal infrastructure, kind of turning it into a bare metal cloud20:31
airship-irc-bot<ildiko> The Airship documentation for details is here: https://docs.airshipit.org20:32
airship-irc-bot<ildiko> The current release is 2.120:32
airship-irc-bot<gmarcy> if I was running a standalone ironic, would airship be able to allocate hosts from it to deploy k8s and openstack to?20:33
airship-irc-bot<ildiko> Ironic/Bifrost: https://ironicbaremetal.org20:33
airship-irc-bot<gmarcy> having all the h/w in my homelab available in bifrost doesn't provide me with a lot of value if I have to manually copy the information from there into the installers of clusters20:35
airship-irc-bot<gmarcy> yes, I've been using that as well, but I haven't seen any gui that integrates with it other than perhaps hive20:36
airship-irc-bot<ildiko> I personally don’t have hands-on experience with Airship, so I can’t tell how it looks like on the GUI side :S20:38
airship-irc-bot<gmarcy> I think to some extent I'm looking for something that further extends the lifecycle management scope.  at a data center level with some new racks show up on pallets in the shipping dock it would be great if you could feed them power and networking and their capacity was added to the resources you could then use to deploy clusters.  and when you have old clusters you may no longer need would be nice to see those resources returned to20:42
airship-irc-botbe reprovisioned.  so lifecycle management that just includes the part when a cluster is deployed is only a subset of that.20:42
airship-irc-bot<ildiko> hmm, so kind of inventory management on rack level?20:44
airship-irc-bot<gmarcy> yes, my mini-datacenter:20:47
airship-irc-bot<ildiko> oh nice!!20:48
airship-irc-bot<gmarcy> would like to have a unified experience going from those sitting idle to being used for clusters20:48
airship-irc-bot<gmarcy> bonus if I can have them powered off after the inventory is taken.  only turn them on when they are needed to handle a new cluster request20:49
airship-irc-bot<ildiko> yeah, that makes sense20:50
airship-irc-bot<gmarcy> agree that ironic and metal3 feel like the right place to start, just wondering how to manage the resources without jumping between different guis20:50
airship-irc-bot<ildiko> if you have the bandwidth to try Airship I would definitely love to learn more about your experience; I just don’t have enough knowledge about the project unfortunately to tell you if it will deliver on all your expectations or not20:52
airship-irc-bot<gmarcy> been playing with the assisted-installer portal and that's nice.  you ask for a cluster and if makes discovery iso images you can download and boot and they register with the install orchestration from there.  but the connection between assisted-service and getting the images where they need to be so that you could do an ipmi bootdev pxe and power on is not integrated20:53
airship-irc-bot<ildiko> yeah, that’s annoying!20:53
airship-irc-bot<gmarcy> when you start getting into all the dns, dhcp, not to mention certificate authorities, ntp servers, etc. running a data center, even a mini one has a lot of moving parts to keep healthy and be aware of what those services expect from each other and what the clusters depend on those services for.20:55
airship-irc-bot<gmarcy> not a lot of "datacenter-in-a-box" solutions :)20:56
airship-irc-bot<ildiko> we have another project called StarlingX that is targeting the edge computing space and covers HW inventory and managing the infra SW pieces as well20:56
airship-irc-bot<ildiko> but it might be overkill a bit for what you need a platform for20:57
airship-irc-bot<ildiko> https://www.starlingx.io20:57
airship-irc-bot<gmarcy> probably worth a look..  my mini-datacenter might be closer to what a remote "edge" location has for resources.20:57
airship-irc-bot<ildiko> yeah, that’s what I was thinking as well20:58
airship-irc-bot<gmarcy> certainly not 6-8ft of blades in a rack :P20:58
airship-irc-bot<ildiko> lol20:59
airship-irc-bot<gmarcy> appreciate all the feedback!  lots to think about21:00
airship-irc-bot<ildiko> happy to help!21:00
airship-irc-bot<ildiko> let me know how it all goes21:00
airship-irc-bot<ildiko> would love to learn which option/configuration gets the closest to what you need21:01

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