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| mattmceuen | Hi all, our team meeting will start in 20 minutes - here's the agenda: https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/airship-team-meeting | 13:40 |
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| mattmceuen | Please add anything you'd like to discuss today into the agenda | 13:40 |
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| mattmceuen | #startmeeting airship | 13:59 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Sep 29 13:59:50 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mattmceuen. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 13:59 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 13:59 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: airship)" | 13:59 | |
| mattmceuen | #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/airship-team-meeting | 13:59 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'airship' | 13:59 |
| mattmceuen | #topic Rollcall | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Rollcall (Meeting topic: airship)" | 14:00 | |
| airship-irc-bot1 | <alexander.hughes> \o/ | 14:00 |
| airship-irc-bot1 | <ih616h> o/ | 14:00 |
| mattmceuen | Good morning, evening everyone - let's give it just a minute or two, the design call is still winding down :) | 14:00 |
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| mattmceuen | please add any additional topics you'd like to the agenda above^ | 14:01 |
| airship-irc-bot1 | <mf4716> o/ | 14:01 |
| sreejithp | o/ | 14:02 |
| airship-irc-bot1 | <mb551n> o/ | 14:02 |
| roman_g | o/ | 14:02 |
| airship-irc-bot1 | <dwalt> o/ | 14:02 |
| mattmceuen | Ok, let's get started | 14:02 |
| mattmceuen | #topic New gerritbot channels | 14:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "New gerritbot channels (Meeting topic: airship)" | 14:02 | |
| airship-irc-bot1 | <sirajudeen.yasin> o/ | 14:02 |
| airship-irc-bot1 | <ak3216> o/ | 14:03 |
| mattmceuen | You all may have noticed less chatter in this channel :) we have moved the gerrit bot updates to a separate channel, for clarity | 14:03 |
| airship-irc-bot1 | <ih616h> this is much cleaner now | 14:03 |
| airship-irc-bot1 | <mf4716> very nice | 14:03 |
| mattmceuen | In IRC the channel is #airshipit-gerritbot, and in Slack it's #airship-gerritbot -- please re-subscribe if you got value out of that | 14:03 |
| mattmceuen | +1 | 14:03 |
| mattmceuen | ty to ashferg and jbryce for their help getting that in place too | 14:03 |
| mattmceuen | #topic Reminder: Open Infra Summit Oct 19-23 | 14:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Reminder: Open Infra Summit Oct 19-23 (Meeting topic: airship)" | 14:04 | |
| airship-irc-bot1 | <alexander.hughes> best part about this change is being able to set up notifications for "every new message" so you're always in the loop | 14:04 |
| mattmceuen | Yes! | 14:04 |
| mattmceuen | The Summit is quickly approaching | 14:04 |
| mattmceuen | NB: Thursday is the last day to submit a recording, if you have a talk | 14:05 |
| mattmceuen | alexander.hughes put together a list of Airship talks: https://www.airshipit.org/blog/airship-featured-at-virtual-open-infrastructure-summit-in-october/ | 14:05 |
| mattmceuen | We will additionally have an Airship 101 overview session, and a short update in the keynotes | 14:05 |
| mattmceuen | Don't forget to register (free!) | 14:06 |
| mattmceuen | #link https://openinfrasummit2020.eventbrite.com/ | 14:06 |
| mattmceuen | And by the same token... | 14:06 |
| airship-irc-bot1 | <alexander.hughes> OSF actually beat me to publishing the list on the blog :slightly_smiling_face: | 14:06 |
| mattmceuen | #topic Open Infra PTG Oct 26-30 | 14:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Infra PTG Oct 26-30 (Meeting topic: airship)" | 14:06 | |
| mattmceuen | Haha, I just assumed it was yours Alex ;-) | 14:06 |
| mattmceuen | The PTG is following the Summit by a week | 14:06 |
| mattmceuen | We'll have an etherpad soon for Airship topics. Airship is later in the week (Wednesday and Thursday) | 14:07 |
| mattmceuen | More info can be found in the etherpad agenda | 14:07 |
| mattmceuen | Please register for that one as well, so that the OSF can plan accordingly | 14:07 |
| mattmceuen | #link https://october2020ptg.eventbrite.com | 14:07 |
| mattmceuen | One point of discussion for today: this time we will be incorporateing New Developer Onboarding into the PTG itself, instead of the Summit | 14:08 |
| mattmceuen | We can do that whenever we want during our time slots, but we should figure it out ahead of time so that the OSF can advertise it | 14:08 |
| mattmceuen | Anyone care whether we e.g. lead with new user onboarding on Wednesday morning, or would prefer to e.g. end with it later on Thursday?\ | 14:09 |
| airship-irc-bot1 | <alexander.hughes> prefer new user up front, serves as a path to the more advanced topics if they're really interested | 14:09 |
| mattmceuen | That's what I was thinking too | 14:10 |
| mattmceuen | and then y'all don't have to join at 8am central on Wednesday if you don't want to participate in the onboarding -- but you are certainly encouraged to :) | 14:10 |
| mattmceuen | I think an hour would be a good amount of time to set aside, do you agree? | 14:11 |
| airship-irc-bot1 | <ashlee> I’d agree with that too since it’s a more global friendly time | 14:11 |
| mattmceuen | Cool -- I'll communicate that out then | 14:12 |
| airship-irc-bot1 | <alexander.hughes> agree on 1 hour, objective is to get a new user's feet wet not feed them with a fire hose | 14:12 |
| mattmceuen | yeah | 14:12 |
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| mattmceuen | Alright - any questions / thoughts on the Summit or PTG before we move on? | 14:14 |
| airship-irc-bot1 | <alexander.hughes> how are we looking on airship 101 presentation? do we need more help from other contributors to shore that up? | 14:14 |
| mattmceuen | I think it's ready to go! Andrew K and dwalt volunteered to give that talk, and they have the slides well hashed-out | 14:15 |
| airship-irc-bot1 | <dwalt> @ak3216 and I are recording today :slightly_smiling_face: | 14:15 |
| mattmceuen | nice | 14:15 |
| airship-irc-bot1 | <alexander.hughes> awesome! :slightly_smiling_face: | 14:15 |
| airship-irc-bot1 | <dwalt> thanks for offering to help @alexander.hughes | 14:15 |
| mattmceuen | +1 | 14:15 |
| mattmceuen | OK, next topic: | 14:15 |
| mattmceuen | #topic Airship UI meetings | 14:15 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Airship UI meetings (Meeting topic: airship)" | 14:15 | |
| mattmceuen | Alex, I think this one's yours? | 14:15 |
| airship-irc-bot1 | <alexander.hughes> yep! Rodolfo sent out an e-mail announcement a few weeks ago, just want to make sure everyone is aware | 14:16 |
| airship-irc-bot1 | <alexander.hughes> #link http://lists.airshipit.org/pipermail/airship-discuss/2020-September/001085.html | 14:16 |
| airship-irc-bot1 | <alexander.hughes> the UI SIG has been cancelled, so the UI grooming and design topics will be moving to the flight plan and open design calls respectively | 14:16 |
| mattmceuen | thanks for socializing @alexander.hughes | 14:16 |
| mattmceuen | The next topic is yours as well: | 14:17 |
| mattmceuen | #topic Contributing to the blog | 14:17 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Contributing to the blog (Meeting topic: airship)" | 14:17 | |
| airship-irc-bot1 | <alexander.hughes> the Airship blog right now seems to be just TC newsletter updates, big project announcements, and OSF announcements. I'd encourage all of you to submit your own contributions to help make the blog more organic and cover a wider set of topics and content styles | 14:18 |
| mattmceuen | The Summit & PTG are going to be good opportunities to let the wider community know what we've been up to | 14:19 |
| mattmceuen | I think additional blog posts timed around then would be really good | 14:19 |
| airship-irc-bot1 | <alexander.hughes> it's just a github project, where you submit your contribution in markdown https://github.com/AirshipWeb/airship-website/ | 14:19 |
| mattmceuen | Thinks like: AIrship in a Pod | 14:19 |
| mattmceuen | Airship UI | 14:19 |
| airship-irc-bot1 | <alexander.hughes> yep! airship in a pod, airshipui, kustomize work we've been doing | 14:19 |
| mattmceuen | Multi-provider support | 14:19 |
| mattmceuen | I will volunteer to put together a Multi-Provider Support blog post; if anyone would like to contribute to that please let me know | 14:20 |
| mattmceuen | Anything else on this topic team? | 14:21 |
| mattmceuen | #topic Roundtable & Review Requests | 14:21 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Roundtable & Review Requests (Meeting topic: airship)" | 14:21 | |
| mattmceuen | Any other topics, or changesets to get on our review radar for the day? | 14:22 |
| mattmceuen | Alright - feel free to drop any topics or patchsets into the channel any time; we'll all see them now that gerritbot is in the next room :) | 14:23 |
| mattmceuen | Our next meeting will be October 13th | 14:23 |
| mattmceuen | Thanks everyone! | 14:23 |
| mattmceuen | #endmeeting | 14:23 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "https://opendev.org/airship || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Airship || https://review.opendev.org/#/q/projects:airship+status:open+NOT+label:Verified%253D-1+NOT+label:Workflow%253D-1+NOT+message:DNM+NOT+message:WIP" | 14:23 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Sep 29 14:23:43 2020 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:23 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/airship/2020/airship.2020-09-29-13.59.html | 14:23 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/airship/2020/airship.2020-09-29-13.59.txt | 14:23 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/airship/2020/airship.2020-09-29-13.59.log.html | 14:23 |
| airship-irc-bot1 | <mf4716> team, a quick comment on the Airship UI meetings topic, any assistance during design & flight plans calls to promote the discussion of the UI would be appreciated; been a recurring agenda topic, just been bumped a few times in priority | 14:24 |
| mattmceuen | It came up in today's design call, but I don't think we had any UI team members present to drive the discussion this time | 14:24 |
| mattmceuen | Design call topics taking longer than expected - and getting bumped to next time - unfortunately occurs a lot | 14:25 |
| mattmceuen | Although the PTG is still weeks away, it'll help get us work through our design backlog | 14:26 |
| roman_g | JFYI, #airship channel could also be used if anyone wants to occupy a nice-looking channel name | 14:27 |
| mattmceuen | oh, someone had been camping in it before! is it free now? :) | 14:28 |
| mattmceuen | nice, roman_g | 14:28 |
| airship-irc-bot1 | <mf4716> yeah @mattmceuen, the UI team member dropped, just before the topic was announced; I'll provide a reminder in our DSU today requesting folks to remain engaged on the calls | 14:29 |
| mattmceuen | folks know the #airshipit channel at this point, but now that you are the op, roman_g, we can at least hold on to it and come up with a good use | 14:30 |
| mattmceuen | thanks @mf4716. It happens :) | 14:30 |
| airship-irc-bot1 | <mf4716> no worries @mattmceuen - there was ack. on the call that the discussion was needed, so, it's all folks' radars, which is all that is important | 14:32 |
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| airship-irc-bot1 | <sirajudeen.yasin> Team, I am trying to add some level of zuul job dependencies to skip running "gate runner job" when there is any lint issue with PS, this way we can save some zuul resource. Let me know if someone thinks different | 15:56 |
| airship-irc-bot1 | <sirajudeen.yasin> | 15:57 |
| airship-irc-bot1 | <alexander.hughes> how are zuul resources looking now? frankly as a developer if I submit a patch and it fails one gate, I fix it then submit and a new gate fails that I could have resolved in first patch it's really inconvenient | 15:57 |
| airship-irc-bot1 | <alexander.hughes> and the other side of the equation - can the gate runner script ever pass if there is a linting failure? | 15:58 |
| airship-irc-bot1 | <sirajudeen.yasin> i assume gate runner can pass even if there is a lint failure, i can double check | 15:59 |
| airship-irc-bot1 | <alexander.hughes> if gate runner always fails if there's a linting error I'm all for just skipping gate running if lint fails. if not I think running both so long as resource usage isn't an issue right now is more convenient | 16:00 |
| airship-irc-bot1 | <sirajudeen.yasin> thanks @alexander.hughes, i will try to check on the resource usage | 16:02 |
| clarkb | the reason we run and report all jobs by default is that we've found that there appears to be more human overhead necessary when you short circuit. The reason for this is you end up with more code review round trips. | 16:03 |
| clarkb | this was differ between different code bases though and our original observations were with openstack a number of years ago | 16:04 |
| clarkb | *this may differ | 16:04 |
| clarkb | also running linters tends to be very easy to do locally, we've tried to encourage developers run them before pushing. I'm sure a majority still don't :) but cleaning up lint errors early is the ideal here I expect | 16:08 |
| roman_g | alexander.hughes, There is technical possibility to start that long-running (1h+) job only after all shorter jobs have succeeded. This is something project committees could decide upon. I can work on implementation if this is considered needed. | 16:09 |
| roman_g | We have 4 custom jobs which run in around 5-10 mins, one common job we don't have control on runs for 5min, and our champion - airship-airshipctl-gate-script-runner - over 1h, closer to 1,5h. | 16:12 |
| airship-irc-bot1 | <alexander.hughes> WC meeting is coming up before the next TC meeting, can add it to their agenda | 16:16 |
| airship-irc-bot1 | <alexander.hughes> https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/airship-wc-meeting-2020-10-05 | 16:17 |
| roman_g | Delay we would introduce by running airship-airshipctl-gate-script-runner only after all other jobs complete with SUCCESS would be around 5-10+ minutes. | 16:19 |
| roman_g | + 5-10+ minutes | 16:19 |
| roman_g | alexander.hughes, thanks for the link | 16:21 |
| airship-irc-bot1 | <alexander.hughes> no problem :slightly_smiling_face: @dwalt https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Airship/Airship-WC looks out of date, want me to fix real quick or you got it? | 16:22 |
| roman_g | https://review.opendev.org/#/c/754999/ - airshipctl gates - Reduce Zuul CI pool workload - please, review. Thanks. | 16:22 |
| airship-irc-bot1 | <dwalt> oops. Can you fix it? Thanks @alexander.hughes | 16:23 |
| airship-irc-bot1 | <alexander.hughes> sure | 16:23 |
| roman_g | Super fast reaction. Thank you, team. | 16:24 |
| airship-irc-bot1 | <dwalt> @raliev does this env variable change the way that airshipctl looks for phase entrypoints? I don't see it used in the script anywhere, but I've seen some comments that suggest it's used somewhere https://github.com/airshipit/airshipctl/blob/d8a6139e8156eb049c650a012a7c4eab76bbc7a7/tools/deployment/22_test_configs.sh#L38 | 16:26 |
| airship-irc-bot1 | <raliev> @dwalt there was a plan to use it just for some debugging commands, like to go to `$targetPath/$repoName` and perform some commands inside, but for now it’s not used anywhere, it’s safe to remove if needed. this variable does not change way of looking for phase entrypoints | 16:30 |
| airship-irc-bot1 | <dwalt> Ah, that clears it up. Thanks @raliev. | 16:32 |
| airship-irc-bot1 | <dwalt> The strange behavior I am seeing is that [this](https://zuul.opendev.org/t/openstack/build/d31688dd7837408e86d7ee37673865a1/log/primary/.airship/config) config file results in airshipctl looking in `/home/zuul/src/opendev.org/airship/treasuremap/airshipctl/manifests/site/test-site/ephemeral/bootstrap` | 16:33 |
| airship-irc-bot1 | <dwalt> I was expecting `/home/zuul/src/opendev.org/airship/treasuremap/manifests/site/test-site/ephemeral/bootstrap` | 16:34 |
| airship-irc-bot1 | <kk6740> @dwalt from what i see that you have: `targetPath: /home/zuul/src/opendev.org/airship/treasuremap` | 16:36 |
| airship-irc-bot1 | <kk6740> when you do document pull, it goes to target path and clone all repositories defined in manifests | 16:37 |
| airship-irc-bot1 | <dwalt> It's not defined in the manifest, right? This is also without document pull | 16:38 |
| airship-irc-bot1 | <dwalt> The only repository defined should be treasuremap | 16:38 |
| airship-irc-bot1 | <kk6740> yes, so in your case, would would get it cloned to ```/home/zuul/src/opendev.org/airship/treasuremap/treasuremap``` | 16:39 |
| airship-irc-bot1 | <dwalt> That makes sense. But where is the airshipctl coming from? | 16:40 |
| airship-irc-bot1 | <dwalt> Adding document pull to treasuremap will be a follow-on to this. Just focusing on the phases for now | 16:40 |
| airship-irc-bot1 | <kk6740> can u give link to patchset | 16:41 |
| airship-irc-bot1 | <dwalt> https://review.opendev.org/754789 https://review.opendev.org/754716 | 16:41 |
| airship-irc-bot1 | <raliev> likely from here https://review.opendev.org/#/c/752595/27/manifests/phases/phases.yaml | 16:41 |
| airship-irc-bot1 | <dwalt> That's definitely it | 16:42 |
| airship-irc-bot1 | <kk6740> :slightly_smiling_face: | 16:42 |
| airship-irc-bot1 | <kk6740> but you mean they come in treasuremap | 16:43 |
| airship-irc-bot1 | <dwalt> I can just plan on redefining those in Treasuremap. It was sort of a temporary shortcut | 16:43 |
| airship-irc-bot1 | <dwalt> thanks @kk6740 and @raliev :slightly_smiling_face: | 16:43 |
| airship-irc-bot1 | <kk6740> @dwalt so you got the root cause? i feel like i didn’t completely follow how that got into treasuremap :slightly_smiling_face: | 16:46 |
| airship-irc-bot1 | <kk6740> @dwalt here is ur problem i thnk | 16:48 |
| airship-irc-bot1 | <kk6740> ``` metadataPath: manifests/site/test-site/metadata.yam``` | 16:48 |
| airship-irc-bot1 | <kk6740> in here https://zuul.opendev.org/t/openstack/build/d31688dd7837408e86d7ee37673865a1/log/primary/.airship/config | 16:48 |
| airship-irc-bot1 | <kk6740> it should be `manifests/type/network-cloud/metadata.yaml` intead ? | 16:49 |
| airship-irc-bot1 | <dwalt> @kk6740 The link that Ruslan posted, https://review.opendev.org/#/c/752595/27/manifests/phases/phases.yaml , links to the phases defined in airshipctl. Those phases are all pre-pended with airshipctl now | 16:54 |
| airship-irc-bot1 | <dwalt> That still needs to be fixed too. But I think that's not what's causing it | 16:55 |
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| airship-irc-bot1 | <james.gu> Hello, could I send another review request for treasuremap 1.8 branch patchsets: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/753864/ (needs a 2nd +2/WF) and https://review.opendev.org/#/c/755079 (simple one liner). TIA !!! | 20:33 |
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