Tuesday, 2019-09-24

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amalrajgenocidexDo airship support ubuntu 18.04?06:46
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dr_feelgoodI found this on pre-installation check in https://github.com/airshipit/treasuremap/blob/0e2d08802460cf062f443a15f15b9fc81898bc42/tools/deployment/aiab/airship-in-a-bottle.sh#L7406:54
dr_feelgoodseems like it's insist on 16.0406:55
dr_feelgoodat least for aiab06:55
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amalrajgenocidexThank you dr_feelgood07:43
amalrajgenocidexAnyone else tried with 18.04?07:43
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amalrajgenocidexHas anyone tried airship on ubuntu 18.04?10:43
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amalrajgenocidexAnd what about openstack release version?11:21
amalrajgenocidexCan we deploy openstack stein using airship?11:22
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openstackgerritAlexander Hughes proposed airship/pegleg master: Add profiles to passphrase catalog  https://review.opendev.org/68239812:16
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openstackgerritAlexander Hughes proposed airship/pegleg master: [WIP] Update layer source for wrapped docs  https://review.opendev.org/68320912:28
openstackgerritAlexander Hughes proposed airship/pegleg master: [WIP] Update layer source for wrapped docs  https://review.opendev.org/68320912:31
amalrajgenocidexCan we deploy openstack stein using airship?12:39
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dwaltamalrajgenocidex: are you referring to using Ubuntu 18.04 as the host OS for AIAB, for nodes deployed by Airship, or as a base container image for Airship services?13:37
dwaltalso you can deploy any Kubernetes service using Airship, including OpenStack Stein :)13:38
dwaltOur weekly IRC meeting kicks off in about 20 minutes. Here is the running agenda https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/airship-meeting-2019-09-2413:39
amalrajgenocidexdwalt Yes, using 18.04 for nodes deployed by airship.13:40
amalrajgenocidexfor both airsloop and seaworthy13:40
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amalrajgenocidexAnd good to hear we can deploy stein using airship. :)13:45
dwaltamalrajgenocidex: There are some known and expected incompatibilities, but MAAS more or less should support 18.0413:46
dwalta few members of the team are working through some of those issues now13:46
dwaltI expect the relevant updates to trickle into treasuremap very soon. But for now, Xenial is the official, supported option13:46
amalrajgenocidexOk. Thank you. I will try with 16.04 itself13:49
amalrajgenocidexRegarding openstack stein,  changing the chart overrides in version.yaml should deploy stein, right?13:49
openstackgerritMerged airship/treasuremap master: Uplift and set maas ingress to run as root  https://review.opendev.org/68412113:50
dwaltamalrajgenocidex: That will work, but I'm not sure if any additional OpenStack configuration values will need tuning13:50
amalrajgenocidexThank you, Let me give it a try13:52
dwalt#openstack-helm would know more, but I think you can look at the values_overrides directory of each chart to determine that13:52
openstackgerritAlexander Hughes proposed airship/pegleg master: [WIP] Update layer source for wrapped docs  https://review.opendev.org/68320913:52
dwaltfor example, queens overrides for Keystone vs. Stein overrides for Keystone https://github.com/openstack/openstack-helm/blob/master/keystone/values_overrides/queens-ubuntu_xenial.yaml https://github.com/openstack/openstack-helm/blob/master/keystone/values_overrides/stein-ubuntu_bionic.yaml13:52
dwaltamalrajgenocidex: no problem :)13:53
amalrajgenocidexIs there any chance that we can deploy ocata now and upgrade to stein later using airship itself?13:59
roman_gMeeting time.14:00
dwaltamalrajgenocidex: the Airship IRC meeting is starting now. I'll give you an answer after that :)14:00
dwaltJust want to make sure it's not lost14:00
dwalt#startmeeting airship14:00
openstackMeeting started Tue Sep 24 14:00:54 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is dwalt. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.14:00
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dwalt#topic rollcall14:00
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'airship'14:00
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dwalthey everyone! o/14:01
lamto/14:01
nishantkro/14:01
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dwaltWe'll give it five for everyone to filter in and add some agenda items14:01
roman_g\o14:01
dwalthttps://etherpad.openstack.org/p/airship-meeting-2019-09-2414:01
howello/14:01
kskelso/14:01
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openstackgerritKaspars Skels proposed airship/treasuremap master: Use MAAS VIP as DNS server for Seaworthy site  https://review.opendev.org/67865214:03
sthusseyhere14:03
dwaltGreat! Let's get started14:05
dwalt#topic New project proposal:  airship/apis14:05
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dwaltA new project has been proposed from the Airship design discussions to store golang interfaces that can be used to generate Airship CRDs.14:06
dwaltThe idea is that it will include interfaces for various APIs like Armada charts, manifests, etc, that will be consumed by various Kubernetes operators.14:06
sthusseyWhy would you have a go module that is nothing but interfaces?14:07
sthusseyRather than bundling those interfaces into the code that understands the contents of the CRD?14:07
roman_gSame question from me. But I'm not a Golang expert at all.14:08
openstackgerritIan Pittwood proposed airship/pegleg master: [WIP] Change verbose option to granular verbosity  https://review.opendev.org/68434914:08
kskelsthis is similar concern that I had - I believe the interfaces that are implemented by someone - should be next to the code14:09
sthusseyIt doesn't seem specific to Go. I would ask the same question if the proposal was a repo of protobuf definitions14:09
dwaltI was out of office for the initial discussion, but it's my understanding that the two ways mentioned above are the ways the community are tackling this14:09
dwaltI believe one of the benefits of moving this code into its own repository was being able to control the tooling from one repository14:10
sthusseyI was just curious of rationale. Airship is well past the point of coherent repo structure, so adding more is likely no concern.14:11
howellI don't think that the intention was to store interface - I think what we discussed was a repo to store concrete types14:11
howellfollowing the patterns of other community projects14:12
howelleg https://github.com/kubernetes/api14:12
dwaltCan you elaborate on that a bit more, howell?14:13
itxakabut that is still synced from https://github.com/kubernetes/kubernetes/tree/master/staging/src/k8s.io/api so the development happens in a diffrent place?14:13
sthusseyIs the expectation then that the provider of this API is a monolith as in Kubernetes?14:13
howellI think the idea was to allow us to version our types14:13
sthusseySo the Airship API is a single product with a single version?14:14
howellI believe so14:14
roman_g> Airship is a collection of loosely coupled but interoperable open source tools...14:15
sthusseyis^H^H was14:15
roman_g¯\_(ツ)_/¯14:16
sthusseyFrom a Kubernetes community perspective, this seems like it may align14:16
sthusseyFrom go dev, I don't see this pattern often14:16
sthusseySo I guess pick your community14:16
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sthusseyAnyway, I was more curious. I have no particular issue with the people doing the work building the repos that make sense for them.14:17
sthussey@itxaka's comment is pertinent though14:19
sthusseyAs it seems like there may be some magic happening in the community that isn't apparent from this side of the curtain14:19
itxakatbh I dont really understand this as the example given seems to be a sync to have a single repo with the api part only, but is basically a soft link to the real repo14:20
itxakaseems to have nothing to do with the management of the api itself, as thios happens somewhere else14:21
itxakaor is the proposal doing the other way, having the api in repo X alone, develop there and then sync to repo Y where its needed?14:21
dwaltThere are some good points here that I feel unqualified to speak on, having been out for the meeting. Is anyone opposed to revisiting these concerns at the beginning of the next open design discussion?14:23
roman_gI'm for it.14:24
itxaka:+114:24
howellI agree, I don't have enough background on the desicion14:24
dwaltGreat. Thanks team14:24
dwalt#topic roundtable14:24
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dwaltWith that, we've exhausted the agenda. Any other items?14:25
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dwaltThat sounds like a no14:26
dwalt#topic reviews14:26
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dwaltLooking for some extra eyes on this patch today. Thanks evgenyl!14:26
sthusseyThis actually reminded me of a question from @roman_G14:26
dwalt#link https://review.opendev.org/#/q/status:open+project:%255Eairship.%252B+branch:master+topic:netpol14:26
dwaltgo for it sthussey14:26
sthusseyCurrently there is some agreement, though not documented as far as I know, that merges only happen with two non-author code approvals14:27
sthusseyHowever, this policy isn't actually enforced by zuul/gerrit14:27
dwaltThat sounds right. This is the only blurb on it that I know of: https://airship-treasuremap.readthedocs.io/en/latest/development_guide.html#merging-code14:28
sthusseyIt seems like 1) this should be formalized in governance and 2) if formalized, should be actually enforced14:28
kskelsthe only corner case I've used for merging automated uplifts in treasuremap if all tests pass14:29
kskelsbut I think those merges are simply enough to get people reviewing14:29
sthusseythis is more a maturity topic than anything else14:29
sthusseyif Airship wants to mature, these grey areas likely need to be resolved14:29
dwaltThat's a good point. I'd like to see this get addressed as well by one of our committees14:30
sthusseyseems reasonable14:30
roman_gHere is a link to a Gerrit prolog submit rule similar to what we want: https://gerrit-review.googlesource.com/Documentation/prolog-cookbook.html#NonAuthorCodeReview14:31
dwaltIt sounds like this may be a better item for the TC. Any thoughts?14:31
roman_g>> Make change submittable only if Code-Review+2 is given by a non author14:31
roman_gWe need same, but 2x +214:31
roman_gnon-authors14:31
kskels+114:31
sthusseyTC is fine14:32
sthusseyMay want to consider the nuances of things like what Kaspar said14:32
sthusseySo that carve outs are formalized and objective14:32
dwalt#action dwalt Add TC meeting agenda item for enforcing code review/merging standards14:33
roman_gYes. I was searching who is TC member :)14:33
dwaltIt is not I, but I think anyone can add :)14:34
dwaltI'll make sure to note that on the agenda. Thanks sthussey14:34
seaneaganhave we already ruled out 1 non-author +2 as an option?14:34
sthussey@alexanderhughes is a member14:34
seaneaganif not, maybe something to add to TC discussion14:34
sthusseyI think it seems reasonable14:34
alexanderhughesI'll add this as an agenda item for TC meeting 26-Sep14:35
dwalt alexanderhuges: thanks!14:35
dwaltalexanderhughes*14:35
sthusseyI'm not sure what the governance around cores and approvers even is at this point14:35
sthusseySeems like it is mostly ad hoc as new repos are created14:35
dwalt#link https://opendev.org/airship/governance#core-reviewer14:36
dwaltWe've been seeding active contributors as initial cores for new repositories, and the existing process governs additional cores thereafter14:36
sthusseySo it looks like that ^ doesn't follow governance14:37
sthusseyAnd the TC should be building the core list for new projects14:37
roman_gseaneagan: no, I think. It's not enforced. I've seen in e.g. x/stackalitycs repo on opnedev author CR+2 and WF+1 themselves. And in openstack/[xxx] repos documentation translation updates patches get merged with 1x CR+2 & WF+114:37
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sthusseyAnyway, again just some comments around maturity as a project/community14:39
roman_g> the nominee must be approved by the existing Core Reviewers for that project14:39
roman_gUsually we don't get enough responses in mailing list when voting for new Cores14:39
roman_gI admit.14:39
dwaltI interpreted the last statement as being for new repositories, but it's vague. I think it's reasonable to bring this to the TC as well14:41
dwaltthanks for bringing these items forward14:41
dwaltanything else today, team?14:42
alexanderhughesnothing from me.  TC agenda is updated to include both code reviews, and core nominations14:43
dwaltalexanderhughes: thanks! much appreciated14:43
dwaltI think we're good to close. Have a great day everyone!14:44
dwalt#endmeeting14:44
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openstackgerritDoug Aaser proposed airship/deckhand master: [AICUNDRC-2064] Fix encrypted doc rendering  https://review.opendev.org/68436614:48
openstackgerritDoug Aaser proposed airship/deckhand master: [AICUNDRC-2064] Fix encrypted doc rendering  https://review.opendev.org/68436614:49
openstackgerritDoug Aaser proposed airship/deckhand master: [AICUNDRC-2064] Fix encrypted doc rendering  https://review.opendev.org/68436614:59
openstackgerritPRATEEK REDDY DODDA proposed airship/treasuremap master: [test] Chart for openstack-utility  https://review.opendev.org/68110415:00
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openstackgerritDarren DeJaeger proposed airship/maas master: (tests) Add NodeSelector to Helm test  https://review.opendev.org/68437215:08
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openstackgerritPRATEEK REDDY DODDA proposed airship/treasuremap master: [WIP] integrate openstack utility container  https://review.opendev.org/68437715:18
openstackgerritIan Pittwood proposed airship/pegleg master: Change verbose option to granular verbosity  https://review.opendev.org/68434915:32
openstackgerritAlexander Hughes proposed airship/pegleg master: Add profiles to passphrase catalog  https://review.opendev.org/68239815:52
openstackgerritAlexander Hughes proposed airship/pegleg master: [WIP] Update layer source for wrapped docs  https://review.opendev.org/68320915:56
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openstackgerritJagan Mohan Kavva proposed airship/porthole master: Chart/Dockerfile for etcdctl Utility Container  https://review.opendev.org/67468016:06
openstackgerritAlexander Hughes proposed airship/pegleg master: Add profiles to passphrase catalog  https://review.opendev.org/68239816:08
openstackgerritJagan Mohan Kavva proposed airship/porthole master: Chart/Dockerfile for etcdctl Utility Container  https://review.opendev.org/67468016:09
openstackgerritTrung Thai proposed airship/porthole master: The script creates and sets up of user K8S profile  https://review.opendev.org/67489216:12
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openstackgerritIan Pittwood proposed airship/pegleg master: Add profiles to passphrase catalog  https://review.opendev.org/68239816:19
openstackgerritNishant Kumar proposed airship/deckhand master: Remove unused code for validation policy as feature not implemented  https://review.opendev.org/68129616:44
openstackgerritMerged airship/maas master: (tests) Add NodeSelector to Helm test  https://review.opendev.org/68437216:59
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openstackgerritAhmad Mahmoudi proposed airship/shipyard master: [AICUNDRC-1746] - WIP: Airflow image from ssh repo  https://review.opendev.org/68440817:29
openstackgerritAhmad Mahmoudi proposed airship/shipyard master: [AICUNDRC-1746] - WIP: Build airflow image from ssh repo  https://review.opendev.org/68440817:35
openstackgerritAlexander Hughes proposed airship/pegleg master: [WIP] Update layer source for wrapped docs  https://review.opendev.org/68320917:36
openstackgerritMerged airship/promenade master: Allow to configure service network policy  https://review.opendev.org/68371817:37
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openstackgerritJenkins Uplifter proposed airship/treasuremap master: Auto chart/image uplift to latest  https://review.opendev.org/68441017:39
openstackgerritIan Pittwood proposed airship/pegleg master: Change verbose option to granular verbosity  https://review.opendev.org/68434917:44
openstackgerritIan Pittwood proposed airship/pegleg master: Change verbose option to granular verbosity  https://review.opendev.org/68434917:45
openstackgerritMerged airship/pegleg master: Add profiles to passphrase catalog  https://review.opendev.org/68239817:50
openstackgerritIan Pittwood proposed airship/pegleg master: [WIP] Update layer source for wrapped docs  https://review.opendev.org/68320917:57
openstackgerritPRATEEK REDDY DODDA proposed airship/treasuremap master: [test] Chart for openstack-utility  https://review.opendev.org/68110418:02
openstackgerritPRATEEK REDDY DODDA proposed airship/treasuremap master: [test] Chart for openstack-utility  https://review.opendev.org/68110418:05
openstackgerritJagan Mohan Kavva proposed airship/porthole master: Chart/Dockerfile for etcdctl Utility Container  https://review.opendev.org/67468018:47
openstackgerritMerged airship/treasuremap master: Auto chart/image uplift to latest  https://review.opendev.org/68441018:52
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openstackgerritKaspars Skels proposed airship/treasuremap master: Use MAAS VIP as DNS server for Seaworthy site  https://review.opendev.org/67865219:01
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openstackgerritDoug Aaser proposed airship/deckhand master: [AICUNDRC-2064] Fix encrypted doc rendering  https://review.opendev.org/68436619:08
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openstackgerritJagan Mohan Kavva proposed airship/porthole master: Chart/Dockerfile for etcdctl Utility Container  https://review.opendev.org/67468019:16
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openstackgerritRoman Gorshunov proposed airship/porthole master: [WIP] image builds and publishing, CI gates  https://review.opendev.org/68406319:21
openstackgerritDoug Aaser proposed airship/deckhand master: [AICUNDRC-2064] Fix encrypted doc rendering  https://review.opendev.org/68436619:26
openstackgerritAnthony Bellino proposed airship/maas master: [fix] Deploy maas-ingress-errors  https://review.opendev.org/68441619:29
openstackgerritJagan Mohan Kavva proposed airship/porthole master: Chart/Dockerfile for etcdctl Utility Container  https://review.opendev.org/67468019:41
openstackgerritRoman Gorshunov proposed airship/porthole master: [WIP] image builds and publishing, CI gates  https://review.opendev.org/68406319:44
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openstackgerritEvgeniy L proposed airship/treasuremap master: [WIP][DNM] Initial implementation of network policies for UCP  https://review.opendev.org/68413319:50
openstackgerritRoman Gorshunov proposed airship/porthole master: [WIP] image builds and publishing, CI gates  https://review.opendev.org/68406319:50
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openstackgerritRoman Gorshunov proposed airship/porthole master: [WIP] image builds and publishing, CI gates  https://review.opendev.org/68406320:04
openstackgerritPRATEEK REDDY DODDA proposed airship/treasuremap master: [test] Chart for openstack-utility  https://review.opendev.org/68110420:13
openstackgerritJagan Mohan Kavva proposed airship/porthole master: Chart/Dockerfile for etcdctl Utility Container  https://review.opendev.org/67468020:17
openstackgerritJagan Mohan Kavva proposed airship/porthole master: Chart/Dockerfile for etcdctl Utility Container  https://review.opendev.org/67468020:19
openstackgerritAlexander Hughes proposed airship/pegleg master: [WIP] Update layer source for wrapped docs  https://review.opendev.org/68320920:21
openstackgerritAlexander Hughes proposed airship/pegleg master: [WIP] Update layer source for wrapped docs  https://review.opendev.org/68320920:24
openstackgerritIan Pittwood proposed airship/pegleg master: Change verbose option to granular verbosity  https://review.opendev.org/68434920:30
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openstackgerritRoman Gorshunov proposed airship/porthole master: [WIP] image builds and publishing, CI gates  https://review.opendev.org/68442120:33
openstackgerritAhmad Mahmoudi proposed airship/shipyard master: [AICUNDRC-1746] - WIP: Build airflow image from ssh repo  https://review.opendev.org/68440820:35
openstackgerritRoman Gorshunov proposed airship/porthole master: [WIP] image builds and publishing, CI gates  https://review.opendev.org/68406320:36
openstackgerritAhmad Mahmoudi proposed airship/shipyard master: (airflow) - WIP: Build airflow image from ssh repo  https://review.opendev.org/68440820:37
openstackgerritJagan Mohan Kavva proposed airship/porthole master: Chart/Dockerfile for etcdctl Utility Container  https://review.opendev.org/67468020:37
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openstackgerritTrung Thai proposed airship/porthole master: The script creates and sets up of user K8S profile  https://review.opendev.org/67489220:56
openstackgerritRoman Gorshunov proposed airship/porthole master: Image builds and publishing, CI gates  https://review.opendev.org/68406321:02
openstackgerritIan Pittwood proposed airship/pegleg master: [WIP] Update layer source for wrapped docs  https://review.opendev.org/68320921:04
openstackgerritDan Crank proposed airship/deckhand master: [WIP] Update to newer versions of OSH scripts  https://review.opendev.org/65578721:10
openstackgerritTrung Thai proposed airship/porthole master: The script creates and sets up of user K8S profile  https://review.opendev.org/67489221:13
roman_gplease, review https://review.opendev.org/684063 airship/porthole master: Image builds and publishing, CI gates21:40
roman_gThank you.21:40
openstackgerritJagan Mohan Kavva proposed airship/porthole master: Chart/Dockerfile for etcdctl Utility Container  https://review.opendev.org/67468021:43
openstackgerritJagan Mohan Kavva proposed airship/porthole master: Chart/Dockerfile for etcdctl Utility Container  https://review.opendev.org/67468021:44
openstackgerritAhmad Mahmoudi proposed airship/shipyard master: (airflow) - WIP: Build airflow image from ssh repo  https://review.opendev.org/68440821:47
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openstackgerritAhmad Mahmoudi proposed airship/shipyard master: (airflow) - WIP: Build airflow image from ssh repo  https://review.opendev.org/68440822:36
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