Tuesday, 2019-07-23

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openstackgerritCraig Anderson proposed airship/divingbell master: Various gate fixes to make gate green  https://review.opendev.org/67185400:04
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openstackgerritCraig Anderson proposed airship/divingbell master: Various gate fixes to make gate green  https://review.opendev.org/67185401:00
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openstackgerritAlexander Hughes proposed airship/pegleg master: Support regenerating PKI  https://review.opendev.org/67133712:19
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openstackgerritAlexander Hughes proposed airship/pegleg master: Support regenerating PKI  https://review.opendev.org/67133712:32
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openstackgerritAlexander Hughes proposed airship/docs master: Add golang formatting documentation  https://review.opendev.org/67131813:23
openstackgerritAlexander Hughes proposed airship/pegleg master: Update Passphrase Catalog to support types  https://review.opendev.org/66974313:24
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alexanderhughesgood morning all!  meeting starting in about half an hour.  agenda for the day https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/airship-meeting-2019-07-2313:25
ian-pittwoodWe should get the index document for all the meeting minutes put back up on https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Airship#Get_in_Touch13:26
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openstackgerritIan Pittwood proposed airship/spyglass master: Move safety checks to new Zuul job  https://review.opendev.org/67184713:42
openstackgerritIan Pittwood proposed airship/spyglass-plugin-xls master: Move safety checks to new Zuul job  https://review.opendev.org/67185913:42
openstackgerritMerged airship/spyglass master: Adds tests for the plugin base  https://review.opendev.org/67182813:43
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openstackgerritIan Pittwood proposed airship/pegleg master: Fix zuul job naming  https://review.opendev.org/67229113:45
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dwaltian-pitwood: I also stumbled across this out-of-date list of meeting etherpads https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/airship-team-meeting-agenda13:55
dwalt#startmeeting airship14:00
openstackMeeting started Tue Jul 23 14:00:29 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is dwalt. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.14:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'airship'14:00
dwalt#topic rollcall14:00
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dwalthello all! o/14:00
dwaltfilling in for mattmceuen today. Here is the agenda https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/airship-meeting-2019-07-2314:00
evrardjpo/14:01
alexanderhugheso/14:01
MattCoachCartero/14:01
howello/14:01
evgenylHi everyone!14:02
roman_go/14:02
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evrardjpdwalt: filling in for mattmceuen -> he is away today?14:03
dwaltevrardjp: he's in an all-day meeting. It's possible he will be lurking throughout the day though14:04
evrardjpsorry to make use of the rollcall for small chat :)14:04
dwaltno worries. breaking the ice :)14:04
evrardjpRecord breaking temperatures in Brussels, you could even say melting the ice :)14:05
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evrardjpat least, I, am melting.14:05
openstackgerritIan Pittwood proposed airship/spyglass master: Add tests for site processor init  https://review.opendev.org/67211514:05
dwalthaha. Can't say I'm upset with our 65 degress fahrenheit14:05
dwaltLooks like the dust has settled on the agenda. Let's begin!14:05
dwalt#topic WC nominations14:06
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dwaltJust a reminder: WC nominations close today at 19:00 UTC14:06
dwaltSo far, we have three candidates. For anyone who still plans to nominate, more info is here https://opendev.org/airship/governance#working-committee14:06
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dwaltI expect we'll here from mattmceuen about election information after the nomination period closes. Any questions regarding WC nominations or the election process?14:07
evrardjpnone14:08
dwaltAwesome. Next topic!14:08
dwalt#topic Code formatting across Airship (both Python and Go projects)14:08
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dwaltalexanderhughes: it's all you14:08
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openstackgerritLuna Das proposed airship/promenade master: Create logging section in promenade.conf  https://review.opendev.org/62915414:09
alexanderhughesthanks dwalt.  for background a few weeks ago we discussed standardizing our code bases with some tools.  for python this would be with YAPF and Flake8, with Go using goimports and gofmt14:09
alexanderhughesI've proposed some docs changes to make these changes official and get the projects starting to implement the changes, I'd like to get one last round of reviews today and get this effort closed out by end of week14:09
alexanderhughesPython: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/671291/ Go https://review.opendev.org/#/c/671318/14:10
alexanderhugheshowell as the lead dev on Go efforts I'd really appreciate your thoughts on the Go patch as well14:10
howelldefinitely, I'm looking now14:10
roman_galexanderhughes: could those docs suggest (standardize) some Makefile procedure to be run before each code commit for review, please?14:11
dwaltThanks alexanderhuges. I'll give it another look today. Are you aware of any additional gates that will need to be added to enforce these standards once they are approved?14:11
dwaltsorry, alexanderhughes14:11
roman_gyes, yes, I'm talking basically the same14:12
roman_g*about14:12
evrardjpsorry to throw more tools into the mix, but was black discussed?14:12
alexanderhughesI've added the sample configuration to Python docs changes on how we would gate using YAPF and Flake8.  I'll work with howell to make sure the work efforts on the Go gates are reflected in the documentation as well14:12
evrardjpand yes, I like the question of dwalt :)14:12
roman_gwe already have section which describes standard Makefile targets (like 'make charts'). Probably we need another one for code formatting.14:13
evrardjpthanks for clarifying alexanderhughes and roman_g14:13
alexanderhugheswell with the .style.yapf suggested in the docs most editors can use a python-yapf plugin and auto format when the developer is writing code.  in the event they fail to do that and fail to run a yapf command against their code the gates proposed will fail and notify them14:14
alexanderhughesI can add more details suggesting those steps be taken before submitting code14:14
dwaltIndeed. evrardjp, would you be able to give a brief explanation of black? I am not familiar14:14
alexanderhughessame applies to Go code with gofmt/goimports14:14
evrardjpdwalt: it's just a code formatter with very strong opinions. It's simple. It's generally rejected by openstack community (multiple threads in the openstack lists), but it's welcomed by some other members of the python community.14:15
evrardjpit's integrated in many IDEs too14:16
evrardjpbut hey, I don't want to throw more tools into the mix. I just wondered if you thought about it, because it reduces the cognitive burden to have everyone writing the same way, which is, _I think_ the goal here14:16
dwaltI just saw.. "the uncompromising code formatter". That's funny14:17
evrardjp"very strong opinions" I said :)14:17
evrardjpI just generally like the look of my code when I run it :D14:17
alexanderhughesevrardjp black was not discussed previously, YAPF was suggested as some projects are using it already, Flake8 came up as a supporting tool to ensure things YAPF didn't enforce (import order) were handled automatically to free up reviewers to look at code changes rather than formatting14:18
ian-pittwoodI'm a fan of black too, but we do already have yapf integrated in several projects. I think either way the same goal of consistent code is accomplished14:18
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evrardjpian-pittwood: that's the most important thing :)14:18
evrardjpas long as it's consistent, it's good :)14:18
evrardjpsorry for the sidetracking here14:18
dwaltTrue consistency is good. The nice thing about code formatters too, is that they're easy to switch if we decide on another tool in a year or whenever14:19
dwaltevrardjp: no worries! thanks for sharing14:19
dwaltI'll keep that one in the back of my mind if this comes up again14:20
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dwaltGreat, so I think we will have some more eyes on the formatting patches. Did anyone else want to add anything to this topic?14:21
roman_gI did add :)14:21
roman_g'make format' or something like that would be nice to have14:21
dwaltSorry roman_g!14:22
dwaltCan you add that to your changes alexanderhughes?14:22
alexanderhughesgladly14:22
dwaltawesome!14:23
dwaltty14:23
dwalt#topic New project request: Porthole migration  (porthole)14:23
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roman_galexanderhughes: https://airship-docs.readthedocs.io/en/latest/code-conventions.html#makefile14:23
dwaltDiwakar, are you by chance here today?14:23
roman_gIs Diwakar here?14:23
sudeepbatra55Diwakar is trying to connect14:24
dwaltsudeepbatra55: ty. Let's come back to this one later when Diwakar is on14:24
dwalt#topic Pegleg validation enhancements on render and genesis bundle creation14:24
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dwaltalexanderhughes14:25
alexanderhughesthis came up when speaking with a consumer of Airship and his resiliency concerns.  the concern is that when we have site documents that get layered there's potential that some items are invalid - specifically IP addresses and their DNS entries (pki certs, rendered manifests etc.) his suggestion was to add more validation14:26
alexanderhughesthis would come up for certificates for example to make sure that the SANs are valid dns entries via some schema validation, and that site documents specifying an IP should also have the ability to ensure that IP has a fqdn, and that the fqdn is valid14:26
alexanderhughesimplementing it, I wanted to get opinions from the community if we should add these checks to Pegleg when rendering documents, generating certs, generating the genesis bundle - or if these validations make sense elsewhere, in a consumers Jenkins jobs for example14:27
evrardjpalexanderhughes: as long as the tooling to validate exist in the first place, we can then iterate and reuse14:28
evrardjpIMO Pegleg should validate itself, but it shouldn't prevent someone else from having those tests in CI in the first place14:28
roman_gFirst idea which comes to my mind is that DNS in a location where user could run Pegleg could be different, and DNS entries may not be resolvable. Same with IP's.14:29
roman_gAnd e.g. for validation of DNS entries - would you want to use system DNS servers, or DNS servers defined in site yamls?14:30
roman_gSo even if Pegleg would have this functionality built-in, it should not be enforced, I believe.14:31
alexanderhughesagreed, it should be optional.  I think one thing we could do is validate based on some format.  for example when pegleg generates pki, the certs have SANs which can have DNS fields coming from the manifests.  we could add a check to ensure that the DNS follows a set pattern such that some.fqdn.com is checked to be valid and free of typos like some14:32
alexanderhughes.f.qdn.co.m14:32
alexanderhughesthat check wouldn't rely on any dns servers or connectivity, it's just schema validation14:33
roman_gThis is probably already implemented. I might be mistaken, though.14:33
alexanderhughesI'll have to check, that example in particular came up for this consumer so if it is implemented it may not have been used14:34
dwaltI am also surprised if none of our components already provide this validation14:34
dwaltIf they do exist, I can see a desire to have that validation performed earlier though, like evrardjp mentioned14:35
roman_gI remember I had linting errors for wrong IP address formats for sure14:35
evrardjpif possible with code reuse, to prevent duplicating validation efforts14:35
alexanderhugheswe definitely provide schema validation, his requests went further though and wanted to validate the IP->dns mapping, and then validate the dns entry.  so essentially do a dig14:35
alexanderhughesso if we focus on that piece, is this something that makes sense for Pegleg?  the points brought up previously about dns server and ips is a great point, I know personally where I run pegleg and the sites I consume the pegleg documents in are often times different14:36
dwaltI see. I know the design calls are  a bit booked with Airship 2 items, but it may be worth floating the idea there at some point14:36
alexanderhughessounds good14:36
dwaltit might make more sense to start integrating with that design as well14:37
dwaltpossibly a validation plugin for airshipctl. I'm just throwing ideas out, I'm not sure what the right answer is :)14:37
alexanderhughes:)  no problem, I'll bring this up on next design call see if I can squeeze in among the airshipctl items14:37
dwaltexcellent!14:38
dwaltanything else for alexanderhughes to capture on this topic?14:38
alexanderhughesno, thanks for the thoughts on this, it'll be helpful when I get to the design call14:39
dwaltnp, glad to hear that14:39
dwaltsudeepbatra55: do you know if we have Diwakar yet14:39
openstackgerritNarla Sandeep Narla Saibaba proposed airship/promenade master: Add custom apparmor profile for kubernetes-proxy  https://review.opendev.org/67202914:40
dwaltor, you can speak on the topic if you'd like to14:40
dwaltalrighty. #topic Roundtable14:41
dwaltwoops14:41
dwalt#topic Roundtable14:41
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evrardjpnothing to add14:42
dwaltAny additional items today, team?14:42
dwaltI'll assume not. We are efficient today :)14:43
dwalt#topic reviews14:43
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dwalt    https://review.opendev.org/#/c/671337/ - Pegleg generate PKI updates14:43
dwalt    https://review.opendev.org/#/c/669743/ - Pegleg generate passphrases updates14:43
dwaltalexanderhughes is requesting reviews on the above items if anyone has the chance to look today. Also, don't forget the code formatting changes!14:44
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roman_gThanks, dwalt and everyone.14:44
alexanderhughesthanks all!14:44
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dwaltThanks everyone! Good meeting today14:45
dwaltHave a great rest of the day14:45
dwalt#endmeeting14:45
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obravoHello everyone!14:51
obravoCan someone give me a little advice?14:51
openstackgerritAlexander Hughes proposed airship/docs master: Python YAPF formatting documentation  https://review.opendev.org/67129114:51
openstackgerritAlexander Hughes proposed airship/docs master: Add golang formatting documentation  https://review.opendev.org/67131814:51
obravoI`m working on migrating TF supprt in Treasuremap.look` like i stuck  around one thing :14:53
roman_gobravo: go on.14:55
obravonova-compute-init is trying to connect to all pods, found in neutron dependencies , including neutron-ovs-agent , which is disabled on site layer , but exists in openstackhelm chart :14:56
obravohttps://github.com/openstack/openstack-helm/blob/master/nova/values.yaml14:56
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obravoNova is still trying to connect to this chart , wich obviosly causes en error , due to OVS , including neutrong-agent is totally disabled14:57
obravoCan I somehow change nova connecting pods  on same layer?14:58
openstackgerritIan Pittwood proposed airship/pegleg master: [WIP] Use tmpdir test fixture  https://review.opendev.org/67217215:05
openstackgerritKudaka Poorna Rajesh proposed airship/promenade master: Enable probes config for etcd  https://review.opendev.org/65986315:15
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openstackgerritDan Crank proposed airship/promenade master: [WIP] Fixes to etcd backup script  https://review.opendev.org/66378515:34
openstackgerritKudaka Poorna Rajesh proposed airship/promenade master: Enable probes config for etcd  https://review.opendev.org/65986316:02
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evrardjpI think I just pebkaced on the MLs16:41
evrardjphahah16:41
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hogepodgemattmceuen: which day does nominations close?17:00
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hogepodgeOne email says nominations close on the 6th, the following says they close tomorrow.17:01
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evrardjpI thought they were closing today at 9UTC17:05
evrardjphogepodge: ^17:05
hogepodgeevrardjp: this says otherwise, I thought it was a long nomination period http://lists.airshipit.org/pipermail/airship-discuss/2019-July/000525.html17:07
evrardjpyeah that next email is confusing17:09
evrardjpmattmceuen: that would be good to clarify17:09
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openstackgerritNarla Sandeep Narla Saibaba proposed airship/promenade master: Add custom apparmor profile for kubernetes-proxy  https://review.opendev.org/67202917:15
openstackgerritNarla Sandeep Narla Saibaba proposed airship/promenade master: Add custom apparmor profile for kubernetes-proxy  https://review.opendev.org/67202917:17
mattmceuensorry guys I have been in a lockdown today and haven't been at desk17:35
mattmceuenevrardjp, hogepodge:  so, that email was a typo on my part17:35
mattmceuenhowever I don't want to surprise people with the fact that it's a typo, at the 11th hour17:35
mattmceuenSo I'm thinking:  Extend the nomination period from "till today" to "till next week", and send out a clarifying email17:36
mattmceuenDoes that sound reasonable?17:36
evrardjpI think sending a clarifying email is nice indeed.17:37
hogepodgesounds perfect17:37
mattmceuenperfect, will send out email shortly -- apologize for the typo, I didn't even realize it till now!17:41
openstackgerritMerged airship/pegleg master: Fix zuul job naming  https://review.opendev.org/67229117:43
openstackgerritLuna Das proposed airship/promenade master: Add facility to configure log levels in promenade  https://review.opendev.org/62915418:00
openstackgerritLuna Das proposed airship/promenade master: Add facility to configure log levels in promenade  https://review.opendev.org/62915418:03
openstackgerritLuna Das proposed airship/promenade master: Add facility to configure log levels in promenade  https://review.opendev.org/62915418:05
openstackgerritLuna Das proposed airship/promenade master: Add facility to configure log levels in promenade  https://review.opendev.org/62915418:10
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openstackgerritCraig Anderson proposed airship/divingbell master: Various gate fixes to make gate green  https://review.opendev.org/67185418:36
openstackgerritCraig Anderson proposed airship/divingbell master: Various gate fixes to make gate green  https://review.opendev.org/67185418:36
openstackgerritAlexander Hughes proposed airship/pegleg master: Support regenerating PKI  https://review.opendev.org/67133718:43
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openstackgerritAlexander Hughes proposed airship/docs master: Add golang formatting documentation  https://review.opendev.org/67131818:53
openstackgerritAlexander Hughes proposed airship/pegleg master: Standardize Pegleg code with YAPF  https://review.opendev.org/66412518:57
openstackgerritAlexander Hughes proposed airship/pegleg master: Standardize Pegleg code with YAPF  https://review.opendev.org/66412518:57
openstackgerritAlexander Hughes proposed airship/pegleg master: Standardize Pegleg code with YAPF  https://review.opendev.org/66412518:59
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openstackgerritLuna Das proposed airship/promenade master: Add facility to configure log levels in promenade  https://review.opendev.org/62915419:39
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openstackgerritEvgeniy L proposed airship/shipyard master: Use a direct connectivity to RabbitMQ  https://review.opendev.org/67157519:43
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openstackgerritEvgeniy L proposed airship/shipyard master: Use a direct connectivity to RabbitMQ  https://review.opendev.org/67157519:49
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openstackgerritRahul Khiyani proposed airship/airship-in-a-bottle master: Fix wrong path to PEGLEG  https://review.opendev.org/67235320:31
openstackgerritMerged airship/airship-in-a-bottle master: Fix wrong path to PEGLEG  https://review.opendev.org/67235320:48
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openstackgerritEvgeniy L proposed airship/shipyard master: Use a direct connectivity to RabbitMQ  https://review.opendev.org/67157521:04
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openstackgerritMerged airship/promenade master: (haproxy) Add rationality check to config  https://review.opendev.org/66406721:59
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openstackgerritMerged airship/docs master: Python YAPF formatting documentation  https://review.opendev.org/67129123:07
openstackgerritMerged airship/docs master: Add golang formatting documentation  https://review.opendev.org/67131823:08
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