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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/airship-treasuremap master: Align Airship Seaworthy pipeline wiht latest ceph https://review.openstack.org/630793 | 02:47 |
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openstackgerrit | Filippo Inzaghi proposed openstack/airship-promenade master: Add airship-discuss https://review.openstack.org/622998 | 08:27 |
openstackgerrit | Filippo Inzaghi proposed openstack/airship-divingbell master: Add airship-discuss https://review.openstack.org/622997 | 08:27 |
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mattmceuen | #startmeeting airship | 14:00 |
openstack | Meeting started Tue Jan 15 14:00:20 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mattmceuen. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'airship' | 14:00 |
mattmceuen | #topic rollcall | 14:00 |
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mattmceuen | gm everyone! | 14:00 |
dwalt | \o/ | 14:00 |
dwalt | GM!' | 14:00 |
mattmceuen | Here's our agenda for today: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/airship-meeting-2019-01-15 | 14:00 |
mattmceuen | Please add anything you'd like to discuss | 14:01 |
evgenyl | Good morning! | 14:01 |
mattmceuen | and we'll give it a couple mins for folks to filter in | 14:01 |
sthussey | here | 14:01 |
Kaspars | also here | 14:01 |
mattmceuen | hey guys | 14:01 |
portdirect | o/ | 14:02 |
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mattmceuen | so the meat of the agenda today is to share/explain a few things that have gotten added in recently | 14:03 |
mattmceuen | #topic podsecuritypolicy chart | 14:03 |
*** openstack changes topic to "podsecuritypolicy chart (Meeting topic: airship)" | 14:03 | |
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mattmceuen | So you may or may not be familiar with k8s PodSecurityPolicies | 14:03 |
mattmceuen | If you configure your k8s to use them, then the k8s api server will only allow you an actor to schedule pods that meet certain criteria/policy | 14:04 |
mattmceuen | Based on k8s RBAC | 14:04 |
mattmceuen | This is a security feature we wanted to add into airship, but in a way that doesn't break all the privileged actions that are taken across airship and openstack-helm | 14:05 |
mattmceuen | This helm chart was added to openstack-helm-infra: https://github.com/openstack/openstack-helm-infra/tree/master/podsecuritypolicy | 14:05 |
mattmceuen | It specifies by default an incredibly (100%) permissive podsecuritypolity, and sets it up as a default for the cluster | 14:06 |
mattmceuen | It was also added into the Treasuremap reference yamls: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/629686/ | 14:06 |
mattmceuen | You can do a couple things through the chart: | 14:07 |
sthussey | Why was the chart put in a different project if it was intended as a part of Airship? | 14:07 |
mattmceuen | because it's not airship-specific | 14:07 |
mattmceuen | pretty broadly applicable | 14:07 |
mattmceuen | You can use the chart to: | 14:08 |
mattmceuen | 1) add whatever additional podsecuritypolicies you want for your cluster, programmatically, letting helm manage lifecycle | 14:08 |
mattmceuen | 2) change the default(s) | 14:08 |
mattmceuen | Over time, we want to tune the defaults in the chart to be a reasonable non-fully-open set of policy, as much as possible. However, the intent is also that operators fully customize it for their workloads, | 14:09 |
portdirect | Nice work mattmceuen | 14:09 |
mattmceuen | You can set up defaults in the chart individually for serviceacounts, authenticated users, and unauthenticated users via the chart, and/or associate the PSPs to other roles outside of the chart itself | 14:09 |
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mattmceuen | that's it - any questions? | 14:10 |
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portdirect | Should help make it much easier to manage the security posture of a cluster. | 14:10 |
roman_g | o/ | 14:10 |
hogepodge | Hi | 14:10 |
mattmceuen | o/ guys :) | 14:10 |
mattmceuen | One more note, just having to do with how PSP's work in k8s | 14:10 |
sthussey | What is the expectation of coordinating access to PSPs and the service accounts created by other Helm charts? | 14:10 |
mattmceuen | that'll be on the operator to coordinate; in an airship world, via substitution. That would be a good pattern to construct/demo in treasuremap I'd think | 14:11 |
mattmceuen | so PSPs only affect pods created *after* the PSPs are in place. So, that's why the psp chart was added first in the treasuremap armada manifest | 14:12 |
mattmceuen | alright, next topic: | 14:13 |
mattmceuen | #topic Mini-mirror integration | 14:13 |
*** openstack changes topic to "Mini-mirror integration (Meeting topic: airship)" | 14:13 | |
mattmceuen | dwalt take it away! | 14:13 |
dwalt | alrighty! | 14:14 |
roman_g | dwalt: Nice job! I like it. Thank you. | 14:14 |
dwalt | One of the challenges we were having in larger scale deployments was the coordination of packages on the host | 14:14 |
dwalt | Thanks roman_g! | 14:14 |
dwalt | i.e. packages changed between the time that we ran test deployment pipelines to the time we actually deployed Airship | 14:15 |
dwalt | Mini-mirror exists as a way to combat that issue. By mirroring Ubuntu package repositories and deploying them into the cluster, we can control what packages exist on the host for a deployment | 14:17 |
powerds0111 | o/ | 14:17 |
dwalt | Currently, you can utilize mini-mirror by building an image by specifying the sources/packages you would like to mirror | 14:18 |
dwalt | #link https://github.com/openstack/openstack-helm-images/blob/master/mini-mirror/README.rst | 14:18 |
dwalt | The next step is integrating mini-mirror into the genesis process, with the vision that we may one be able to deploy Airship without internet connectivity | 14:19 |
dwalt | The chart for mini-mirror is also here: | 14:19 |
dwalt | #link https://github.com/openstack/openstack-helm-addons/tree/master/mini-mirror | 14:19 |
dwalt | Any questions? | 14:19 |
Kaspars | this looks really cool, are you thinking to add it to treasuremap any time soon? | 14:19 |
roman_g | At the moment mini-mirror does not contain: docker image archives and k8s binaries; they would need to be baked into some /var/cache inside the image | 14:20 |
dwalt | Kaspars: Thanks! Definitely. As soon as we have a published demo image, we would like to get a full demo | 14:20 |
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sthussey | mini-mirror is just a framework. It should contain whatever packages you tell it sourced from whatever source you provide when you build the image. | 14:21 |
dwalt | ++ | 14:22 |
mattmceuen | Yup roman_g those would be good enhancements down the road | 14:22 |
mattmceuen | o/ powerds0111 | 14:22 |
mattmceuen | anything else on the mini-mirror front guys? | 14:22 |
mattmceuen | also, hooray for clever names. very catchy | 14:22 |
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sthussey | I would suggest if it isn't merged yet that you consider naming it mini-apt or something | 14:23 |
mattmceuen | lol well you got one vote each way there | 14:23 |
mattmceuen | but it's merged | 14:23 |
sthussey | It isn't really part of Airship, so this is just tangential, but there is a merged spec in Airship to support multiple OSes and making mini-mirror Ubuntu specific doesn't really jive with that | 14:24 |
portdirect | There would be nothing stopping adding rpm support | 14:24 |
mattmceuen | totally agree | 14:24 |
sthussey | And I don't think long term adding the complexity to make a single framework support both is worth it | 14:24 |
sthussey | Just pick whether you want mini-apt or mini-rpm and go forward | 14:24 |
portdirect | Or just a value toggel | 14:25 |
portdirect | All it would take is turning on or off, two manifests | 14:25 |
mattmceuen | the *chart* part is really an nginx chart, right dwalt? | 14:25 |
sthussey | Yeah, I don't really care about the chart part | 14:25 |
mattmceuen | and the apt magic is in the docker build stuff | 14:25 |
sthussey | The complexity is in building the image | 14:25 |
dwalt | At it's core, it really is just NGINX | 14:25 |
dwalt | the image itself is just an NGINX image with the mirrored snapshots | 14:25 |
sthussey | Again, just tangential as it isn't part of Airship. But a consideration. | 14:26 |
dwalt | so a similar tool could be used (with a toggle) to mirror rpm repos | 14:26 |
mattmceuen | it might make sense to separate the apt docker build from the rpm docker build, since they'd likely be quite different | 14:26 |
dwalt | This is true. And OpenStack-Helm addons already has the pattern for multiple OS/Dockerfiles | 14:26 |
mattmceuen | I don't think it's tangential, we want to bring multi-os support into Airship | 14:27 |
dwalt | OpenStack-Helm-images* | 14:27 |
mattmceuen | good point | 14:27 |
mattmceuen | anything else on MM? | 14:27 |
portdirect | Maxi-mirror? | 14:27 |
srwilkers | :) | 14:28 |
mattmceuen | Just depends how much stuff you shove in the image portdirect :) | 14:28 |
mattmceuen | #topic Monthly Treasuremap Release | 14:28 |
portdirect | Is there thought toward caching of things like docker images at this point, or that still at design stage? | 14:28 |
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mattmceuen | #topic maxi-mirror | 14:28 |
*** openstack changes topic to "maxi-mirror (Meeting topic: airship)" | 14:28 | |
mattmceuen | portdirect: I think there's been some discussion around it, but I don't know if any stories are in storyboard or anyone working on it yet | 14:29 |
roman_g | me neither | 14:29 |
sthussey | While possibly branded as mini-mirror, I would expect something like that to basically be completely separate in terms of image build | 14:29 |
portdirect | I was more thinking an adjunt here, to separate the concerns | 14:30 |
sthussey | I think designs right now around image caching are something like squid w/ MITM TLS signing | 14:30 |
portdirect | Looks like mini-mirror allows offline host provisioning | 14:30 |
roman_g | dwalt: would you work on blueprint, or I can take it? | 14:31 |
portdirect | But still leaves the gap of how to get containers into a site without internet or artifactory or summat. | 14:31 |
roman_g | (bake into genesis iso) | 14:31 |
dwalt | roman_g: You can take a stab at it if you'd like! | 14:31 |
roman_g | dwalt: deal | 14:31 |
sthussey | At this point, that wasn't the business value targeted w/ mini-mirror | 14:31 |
portdirect | Nice | 14:31 |
portdirect | sthussey: I understand that, hence my q. | 14:32 |
roman_g | sthussey: portdirect: mattmceuen what is your decision/input? | 14:32 |
sthussey | Decision on what? If you want to draw up a spec for something, go for it. | 14:33 |
mattmceuen | roman_g: if you'd like to take a stab at a spec PS, I think that gives a good opportunity to prompt discussion, even (especially) if that prompts a change in direction | 14:33 |
portdirect | After 3 mins of percolation time, bit early for me to put my stake in the ground on anything roman_g | 14:33 |
portdirect | ++ to mattmceuen s point | 14:34 |
mattmceuen | thanks roman_g | 14:34 |
mattmceuen | Anything else on the multi-mirror discussino? | 14:34 |
mattmceuen | #topic Monthly Treasuremap Release | 14:35 |
*** openstack changes topic to "Monthly Treasuremap Release (Meeting topic: airship)" | 14:35 | |
mattmceuen | Kaspars, all yours | 14:35 |
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Kaspars | great! so we have I would say almost routine monthly tag of airship-treasuremap manifests found located at https://github.com/openstack/airship-treasuremap/releases | 14:36 |
Kaspars | as before - it includes auto-uplifts of components (with a few exclusions this time that include MAAS HA that Scott will talk about later, and armada due to test pod handling) | 14:36 |
Kaspars | there are a few other notable changes as ceph partition handling and update of Docker to much newer version | 14:37 |
Kaspars | as before - it has ran through full airship deployment pipeline (Airship Seaworthy), here are few sentances about it https://airship-treasuremap.readthedocs.io/en/latest/ | 14:38 |
Kaspars | I would say enjoy the latest release candidate for 1.0 | 14:38 |
mattmceuen | that's awesome Kaspars | 14:39 |
seaneagan | in-flight fix for Armada test pod handling: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/629313/ | 14:39 |
mattmceuen | thanks for keeping the good stuff coming and the pipelines green :) | 14:39 |
mattmceuen | o/ seaneagan | 14:39 |
mattmceuen | any other discussion on the release candidate? | 14:40 |
mattmceuen | #topic HA MaaS overview | 14:41 |
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mattmceuen | sthussey all yours! | 14:41 |
sthussey | Recently there a significant refactor of the Airship chart for the Canonical MAAS product. | 14:42 |
sthussey | Previously it was a bit fragile in terms of where it ran and how it responded to moving to other nodes. | 14:42 |
sthussey | It now should support a highly available configuration for the MAAS components (HA Postgres under it is out of scope) and with that HA support comes mobility across nodes in the cluster | 14:43 |
sthussey | There are some caveats and suppositions for the current solution | 14:44 |
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portdirect | thats great sthussey | 14:44 |
portdirect | is the required config in treasuremap and airship in a bottle - so we can take it for a spin? | 14:44 |
sthussey | 1) It expects a flat L2 broadcast domain for the PXE network across all nodes in the cluster | 14:44 |
sthussey | re: config - Can't speak to Treasuremap, but the multinode-gate in AIAB should work with it | 14:45 |
Kaspars | there has not been patchsets submitted for treasuremap, yet | 14:46 |
sthussey | 2) You must be able to route between the PXE booting network and whatever network your cluster ingress runs on. If there is a single network in your cluster for all traffic, that is sufficient. | 14:46 |
sthussey | 3) Currently there is no TLS support for accessing the MAAS API/metadata server. That support will hopefully be in place in the near future | 14:47 |
hogepodge | Somewhat related, is Ironic making progress in the RCs? | 14:47 |
mattmceuen | hogepodge: there was good discussion in rodolfo's zoom call last thursday, if you want to see the recording | 14:48 |
sthussey | 4) If you are using the OSH-infra ingress chart, you must be using nginx-ingress-controller v0.20.0 or better | 14:48 |
hogepodge | (kind of previous topic juggling multiple chat windows) | 14:48 |
sthussey | Otherwise you get false port binding conflicts between cluster ingress and maas ingress | 14:48 |
sthussey | That is all from me. | 14:48 |
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mattmceuen | thanks for all the details sthussey - that was a big effort with a lot of tricky bits | 14:49 |
hogepodge | mattmceuen yes please, I’ll coordinate offline thx | 14:49 |
mattmceuen | awesome, sounds good hogepodge | 14:49 |
mattmceuen | sounds like treasuremap is pinned to an old version - I guess the interface to the maas chart isn't backwards compatible, right sthussey? | 14:49 |
sthussey | Not sure, would have to test. The previous overrides certainly won't enable the HA functionality | 14:50 |
Kaspars | the pipeline did fail - so I had to disable auto-uplift for maas/drydock charts.. | 14:51 |
mattmceuen | gotcha. Kaspars, maybe we can coordinate in the chat here to after the meeting to see what the issues you were seeing are, so we can get HA MaaS into TM now that the stable release was cut | 14:51 |
mattmceuen | k we have a few more topics and scant few minutes! | 14:52 |
mattmceuen | #topic PS needing review | 14:52 |
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Kaspars | there was a pretty large PS comitted to AIAB - so those changes need to be ported to treasuremap as well | 14:52 |
mattmceuen | I'm just going to paste these with a blurb and then move on! | 14:52 |
Kaspars | to support latest MAAS/drydock - as well as few DNS handling need to be settled | 14:52 |
Kaspars | some work.. | 14:52 |
mattmceuen | Blurb: I want to make sure there's an opportunity for folks to bring up PS weekly that they view as high priority, and/or lost in the shuffle | 14:52 |
mattmceuen | https://review.openstack.org/630749 | 14:52 |
mattmceuen | https://review.openstack.org/630752 | 14:52 |
mattmceuen | https://review.openstack.org/630755 | 14:52 |
mattmceuen | ^^ from dwalt - please give those some eyes soon team | 14:53 |
mattmceuen | any others? | 14:53 |
mattmceuen | One topic not on the agenda: | 14:54 |
mattmceuen | #topic best of luck mark-burnett ! | 14:54 |
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hogepodge | I have one regarding ATC codes for Denver Summit | 14:54 |
Kaspars | best of luck, Mark!! | 14:55 |
mattmceuen | Mark is taking another opportunity. He is of course more than welcome to continue participating in the airship community as much as possible! But I also just wanted to share that hey may not have the same bandwidth | 14:55 |
mattmceuen | Mark has been instrumental in forming the airship community, and definitely with him best of luck in the next endeavor! | 14:56 |
mattmceuen | #topic ATC codes for Denver Summit | 14:56 |
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mattmceuen | go for it hogepodge | 14:56 |
hogepodge | Congratulations Mark! | 14:57 |
cbcg | congarts Mark! | 14:57 |
hogepodge | we need to put together a list of active contributors to receieve discount codes for the Denver summit | 14:57 |
hogepodge | To help us with that we need a list of repositories to draw from for contributions. | 14:58 |
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hogepodge | I’m assuming all repos prefixed airship-, but if there are others we missed getting them to fungi would be a big help | 14:58 |
mattmceuen | I think that is the right set hogepodge | 14:59 |
mattmceuen | thanks for making sure | 14:59 |
hogepodge | Since Airship is so new, we’re looking at contributions back to the launch of Airship as a pilot project in Vancouver for the contribution timeframe | 14:59 |
hogepodge | cool, thanks :-) | 14:59 |
mattmceuen | Sounds reasonable to me! :) | 14:59 |
mattmceuen | Ok guys we are hard outta time -- please vote in the board election, and help out with the deckhand doc builds: | 15:00 |
mattmceuen | Please, assist: airship-deckhand documentation builds are broken since Oct. 30, 2018 | 15:00 |
mattmceuen | Bug: https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/2004747 | 15:00 |
mattmceuen | Logs: https://readthedocs.org/api/v2/build/8395458.txt | 15:00 |
roman_g | It's mine, and I don't know how to fix it. | 15:01 |
dwalt | roman_g: I will take a look at that sometime today | 15:01 |
mattmceuen | Cool - let's continue the discussion here post-meeting roman_g and get that working | 15:01 |
mattmceuen | #endmeeting | 15:01 |
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mattmceuen | thanks all! | 15:01 |
openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jan 15 15:01:38 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:01 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/airship/2019/airship.2019-01-15-14.00.html | 15:01 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/airship/2019/airship.2019-01-15-14.00.txt | 15:01 |
roman_g | Thank you. | 15:01 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/airship/2019/airship.2019-01-15-14.00.log.html | 15:01 |
dwalt | I have been working on some of the gates | 15:01 |
mattmceuen | note some folks need to go to the OSH meeting and so may be a little laggy :) | 15:01 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/airship-treasuremap master: Update docs, execute deploy_site.sh when in shipyard directory https://review.openstack.org/629063 | 15:43 |
hogepodge | mattmceuen: rodolfo: I have a docker-compose and loci Ironic implementation (both standalone and as nova driver) if you want to see how I handled things like tftp and image management | 15:47 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/airship-divingbell master: Add airship-discuss https://review.openstack.org/622997 | 16:22 |
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mark-burnett | Thanks Matt & all -- sorry I missed the meeting this morning | 18:09 |
mark-burnett | :) | 18:09 |
openstackgerrit | Lev Morgan proposed openstack/airship-pegleg master: pki: Port Promenade's PKI catalog into Pegleg https://review.openstack.org/606131 | 18:11 |
openstackgerrit | Lev Morgan proposed openstack/airship-pegleg master: pki: Port Promenade's PKI catalog into Pegleg https://review.openstack.org/606131 | 18:16 |
mattmceuen | no worries mark-burnett :) | 18:34 |
mattmceuen | hogepodge - would love to see that! | 18:34 |
hogepodge | mattmceuen: it's all very rough, but the one based on bifrost is here: https://github.com/hogepodge/symmetrical-memory | 18:35 |
hogepodge | the one that is a driver for nova is here https://github.com/hogepodge/container-ironic | 18:35 |
mattmceuen | thanks for sharing those, will take a look and pass them to folks looking at ironic | 18:36 |
openstackgerrit | Mark Burnett proposed openstack/airship-promenade master: Expand bootstrapping documentation https://review.openstack.org/631050 | 18:56 |
openstackgerrit | Mark Burnett proposed openstack/airship-promenade master: Expand bootstrapping documentation https://review.openstack.org/631050 | 19:04 |
openstackgerrit | Lev Morgan proposed openstack/airship-pegleg master: pki: Port Promenade's PKI catalog into Pegleg https://review.openstack.org/606131 | 19:29 |
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openstackgerrit | Nishant Kumar proposed openstack/airship-specs master: (divingbell) Ansible framework https://review.openstack.org/628221 | 19:30 |
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openstackgerrit | Nishant Kumar proposed openstack/airship-specs master: (divingbell) Ansible framework https://review.openstack.org/628221 | 19:32 |
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openstackgerrit | Shoaib Nasir proposed openstack/airship-armada master: Add support in Armada CLI to pass user bearer tokens to tiller https://review.openstack.org/630754 | 19:50 |
mfuller | Hello, I'm a dev at SUSE and I'm trying to get a dev environment set up following the treasuremap documentation. I was curious if it's possible to utilize some of Promenade's functionality for k8s node lifecycle management (node labeling, etc.) in a BYO k8s environment, without bootstrapping | 19:55 |
sthussey | should be | 19:55 |
mfuller | For example, is it possible to set up site definition documents to describe an already existing environment, and then use update_site to perform labeling changes? | 19:56 |
openstackgerrit | Shoaib Nasir proposed openstack/airship-armada master: Add support in Armada CLI to pass user bearer tokens to tiller https://review.openstack.org/630754 | 19:59 |
openstackgerrit | Sean Eagan proposed openstack/airship-armada master: Add configurability of uninstall timeout https://review.openstack.org/630779 | 20:02 |
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georgk | mattmceuen: ping! | 21:06 |
sthussey | @mfuller correct | 21:14 |
mfuller | I'm still working my way though all the documentation so I may not have gotten there yet, but is there a section or an example of the minimum level of detail Shipyard needs to know about a site in order to perform updates this way? | 21:24 |
mfuller | Would it need to know low-level hardware details about nodes? | 21:26 |
openstackgerrit | Drew Walters proposed openstack/airship-deckhand master: CI: Fix integration job https://review.openstack.org/630749 | 21:29 |
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openstackgerrit | Lev Morgan proposed openstack/airship-pegleg master: CLI capability to generate and encrypt passphrases https://review.openstack.org/605425 | 21:50 |
openstackgerrit | Drew Walters proposed openstack/airship-treasuremap master: airskiff: Use Docker CE 18.06 for Minikube https://review.openstack.org/623549 | 22:00 |
openstackgerrit | Drew Walters proposed openstack/airship-treasuremap master: airskiff: Use Minikube for Kubernetes deployment https://review.openstack.org/622610 | 22:00 |
openstackgerrit | Drew Walters proposed openstack/airship-treasuremap master: airskiff: Use Minikube for Kubernetes deployment https://review.openstack.org/622610 | 22:31 |
sthussey | @mfuller I'd actually need to walk through it myself - I didn't design or implement it. | 22:38 |
sthussey | But it does require drydock in the middle at this point because drydock dynamically renders some labels | 22:38 |
openstackgerrit | Drew Walters proposed openstack/airship-treasuremap master: airskiff: Use Minikube for Kubernetes deployment https://review.openstack.org/622610 | 23:16 |
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