| mrhillsman | resource restriction or constrained? | 00:08 |
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| mrhillsman | definitely did not deploy correctly i would say | 00:11 |
| mrhillsman | README is pretty straight forward but it is simply not working? the requirements of the VM to deploy on is in the script and it passes; so not really sure at this point on the resolution other than digging into the code to figure it out which seems to require some knowledge of most of the components? | 00:12 |
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| openstackgerrit | Lev Morgan proposed openstack/airship-pegleg master: CLI capability to generate and encrypt passphrases https://review.openstack.org/605425 | 01:27 |
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| openstackgerrit | Qi Peng proposed openstack/airship-armada master: Add endpoint about release-delete https://review.openstack.org/624288 | 06:38 |
| openstackgerrit | Qi Peng proposed openstack/airship-armada master: Add endpoint about release-delete https://review.openstack.org/624288 | 06:43 |
| openstackgerrit | Craig Anderson proposed openstack/airship-divingbell master: Add retry/rerun support for exec module https://review.openstack.org/624291 | 06:56 |
| openstackgerrit | Qi Peng proposed openstack/airship-armada master: Add option named `--tiller-namespace` for delete command https://review.openstack.org/624300 | 07:17 |
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| c06 | hi i found airshipit very interesting and i planning to explore it. i am not finding any minimum requirements for airship-in-a-bottl | 11:17 |
| c06 | where i can find minimum h/w requirements | 11:18 |
| c06 | sorry i got it.. is there any way we can reduce the ram ulitization. | 11:24 |
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| sthussey | here | 14:00 |
| mattmceuen | o/ | 14:00 |
| evrardjp | o/ | 14:01 |
| b-str | hello | 14:01 |
| mark-burnett | #startmeeting airship | 14:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Dec 11 14:02:19 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mark-burnett. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: airship)" | 14:02 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'airship' | 14:02 |
| mark-burnett | Hi all | 14:02 |
| portdirect | o/ | 14:02 |
| mattmceuen | GM mark-burnett | 14:02 |
| mark-burnett | Here's the very empty etherpad for today: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/airship-meeting-2018-12-11 | 14:02 |
| dwalt | o/ | 14:02 |
| mattmceuen | dwalt I'm on mobile for few mins so no easy access to etherpad- could you share a status update on the airskiff gates, where they are, where they're going? | 14:05 |
| evrardjp | nice agenda | 14:05 |
| dwalt | Absolutely! | 14:07 |
| dwalt | Now that Airskiff has been integrated in the Treasuremap repository as a site, we have added several gates. Two of which lint each site (Airship-Seaworthy, Airskiff), and one that deploys a couple of components (i.e memcached) using the Airship components deployed during the Airskiff setup process. We’re going through the next phase right now of adding that Treasuremap gate as a non-voting job to each component’s | 14:11 |
| dwalt | repository that is represented in Airskiff. | 14:11 |
| dwalt | Additionally, we are trying to reduce the size of the Airskiff site. There are a lot of extra files that were inherited from the Seaworthy site that are ignored when deploying Airskiff | 14:12 |
| mattmceuen | so the airskiff gate *in treasuremap* today -- what does it gate on? Any changes to treasuremap, or something more specific? | 14:14 |
| dwalt | Great question. Because it deploys the whole site using the developer setup scripts, any changes to those scripts or the Airskiff site documents are gated | 14:15 |
| dwalt | Additionally, we build all of the Airship components from source. So they are sort of verified on each run | 14:16 |
| mattmceuen | gotcha. How long does the full gate run take in openstack infra? | 14:16 |
| dwalt | It’s about an hour at the present time. While we are looking at ways to reduce the time (e.g. exploring minikube for K8s), the priority is still to represent this job in the other Airship components first | 14:18 |
| mattmceuen | makes sense. If we're building the airship components {pegleg, armada, shipyard, deckhand} from source as part of the gate, would it speed things up to only build the project being tested, and pull the curent built images for the rest? | 14:19 |
| dwalt | That’s another idea that’s also been tossed around a bit. That is another thing I am hoping to accomplish once the gate runs for the other Airship repositories | 14:21 |
| mattmceuen | awesome | 14:21 |
| dwalt | Right now, Treasuremap is sort of serving as an integration point | 14:21 |
| dwalt | For those interested, we also have a roadmap on the Treasuremap storyboard | 14:22 |
| mattmceuen | thanks for your work on that - it'll be really valuable getting some gating on every patch :) | 14:22 |
| mattmceuen | link to storyboard? | 14:22 |
| dwalt | https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/project/openstack/airship-treasuremap | 14:23 |
| dwalt | Definitely! | 14:23 |
| mattmceuen | I think those are all my questions with which to pepper dwalt at this time mark-burnett :) | 14:24 |
| mark-burnett | Great | 14:26 |
| mark-burnett | Anyone else have any topics? | 14:26 |
| portdirect | Airship-in-a-bottle ? | 14:26 |
| mark-burnett | Ok | 14:27 |
| mark-burnett | #topic Airship in a bottle | 14:28 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Airship in a bottle (Meeting topic: airship)" | 14:28 | |
| sthussey | Is there an actual question or subject regard AIAB that needs discussion? | 14:29 |
| sthussey | regarding* | 14:29 |
| b-str | I added what I know about efforts to move it forward to the etherpad. | 14:30 |
| portdirect | thats great b-str | 14:30 |
| portdirect | the question is more around what we do to try and get us in a situation where it works all the time | 14:31 |
| portdirect | do we have capacity to put some cicd around it? | 14:31 |
| portdirect | or a community goal to keep it healty | 14:31 |
| portdirect | as its the entrypoint for most people into airship, its very important that their first experence is a good one. | 14:32 |
| mattmceuen | +1 | 14:32 |
| sthussey | Seems the largest hurdle is 3rd party CI doesn't have a method for publishing logs | 14:33 |
| b-str | There is an AIAB pipeline that runs (internally) but it doesn't gate, and doesn't publish results publicly. | 14:33 |
| sthussey | So all the results are silent due to OSF rules that 3rd party CI must publicly publish results | 14:33 |
| mattmceuen | Substantial "doesn't work on my machine" feedback on ML and otherwise -- part of that is system requirements, part of that is occasionally something is broken | 14:33 |
| mattmceuen | Was about to say - can we publish the results :) | 14:34 |
| mark-burnett | I feel like we're onto rehashing old topics here | 14:34 |
| mattmceuen | k, what was the outcome of that one mark-burnett | 14:34 |
| mark-burnett | We've discussed our inability to publish 3rd party gate results a number of times in this forum | 14:34 |
| b-str | One ML request was to reduce the memory requirement, which we've known since June or so, but no substantial changes have happened since then on this topic. | 14:35 |
| mark-burnett | The outcome is simply that the team responsible doesn't have the bandwidth to push that forward right now | 14:35 |
| mattmceuen | Sure, bandwidth aside - I wouldn't phrase that inability, just opportunity | 14:36 |
| mattmceuen | "when" not "if" | 14:36 |
| portdirect | ok - I'll see if i can help on the publishing issue | 14:37 |
| portdirect | i may have some levers i can pull | 14:37 |
| portdirect | though would probably be after christmas | 14:37 |
| sthussey | Did we ever get clarity on how Ironic or Triple-O does gating of the full platform? I've heard two stories around that - one is 3rd party gates and the other is they have worked zuul magic. | 14:37 |
| mattmceuen | ty portdirect :) | 14:37 |
| portdirect | ironic - just uses zuul and nodepool as per everyone else | 14:38 |
| portdirect | triple-o uses zuul and nodepool, though with some deadicated hardware if i rememeber correctly | 14:38 |
| sthussey | Okay | 14:39 |
| portdirect | though as we are not 'openstack' we can use third party gates however we like as far as im aware | 14:39 |
| sthussey | I was just looking at Ironic PS and it seems like they have vendor gates | 14:39 |
| portdirect | so should have no limitations | 14:39 |
| mark-burnett | Yeah, they have pretty significant 3rd party gates, iirc | 14:39 |
| portdirect | ironic has third party gates, but do not rely upon them | 14:39 |
| portdirect | the core implementation only requires vbmc to run | 14:39 |
| portdirect | this is how we gate it in osh | 14:40 |
| portdirect | so you may want to check that for somthing that would plug neatly into airskiff | 14:41 |
| mark-burnett | Ok, sounds like we're basically done | 14:42 |
| mark-burnett | Thanks for coming everyone! | 14:42 |
| mark-burnett | #endmeeting | 14:43 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "airshipit.org || General Review Dashboard: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:%255Eopenstack/airship.*+status:open,n,z" | 14:43 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Dec 11 14:43:02 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:43 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/airship/2018/airship.2018-12-11-14.02.html | 14:43 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/airship/2018/airship.2018-12-11-14.02.txt | 14:43 |
| mattmceuen | ty all | 14:43 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/airship/2018/airship.2018-12-11-14.02.log.html | 14:43 |
| mattmceuen | Hey c6 sorry, didn't get a chance to answer your question before the meeting kicked in :) | 14:46 |
| mattmceuen | The team put a lot of work into reducing the memory footprint of airship-in-a-bottle, and there may be more opportunity to squeeze it down as time goes on. But at the end of the day it is quite a bit of software for a VM, so unfortunately it is what it is at the moment. Just need a somewhat beefy laptop to run it today | 14:48 |
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| mattmceuen | If you leave out the components that do the bare metal provisioning, though, it saves a bit of space -- take a look at airskiff: | 14:49 |
| mattmceuen | https://airship-treasuremap.readthedocs.io/en/latest/airskiff.html | 14:49 |
| mattmceuen | just the software deployment components (no Promenade or Drydock or bare metal provisioning), it's a good way to get started on the rest with much less ram. @dwalt do you have an idea of RAM requirements? | 14:49 |
| dwalt | mattmceuen: I think I missed the original question, but I have success running Airskiff using the deployment scripts on a machine with 8 GB of RAM. IIRC, the gates have a similar hardware limitation. | 14:56 |
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| openstackgerrit | melissaml proposed openstack/airship-shipyard master: fix typos in API.rst & output.py https://review.openstack.org/624447 | 17:15 |
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| openstackgerrit | Scott Hussey proposed openstack/airship-in-a-bottle master: Make the gate more configurable https://review.openstack.org/616625 | 20:06 |
| openstackgerrit | Rahul Khiyani proposed openstack/airship-promenade master: [US:349446] Adding capabilites for reading policy.yaml file. https://review.openstack.org/617698 | 20:28 |
| openstackgerrit | Evgeniy L proposed openstack/airship-in-a-bottle master: Add proxy override for Armada chart https://review.openstack.org/624122 | 20:34 |
| openstackgerrit | Evgeniy L proposed openstack/airship-in-a-bottle master: Update Armada and Tiller versions for dev env https://review.openstack.org/624486 | 20:35 |
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| openstackgerrit | Evgeniy L proposed openstack/airship-in-a-bottle master: Remove duplicate armada entry from demo versions https://review.openstack.org/624493 | 21:10 |
| mrhillsman | mattmceuen: are you saying that i should not use airship-in-a-bottle as is right now? in particular the maas part still fails; unfortunately I am not informed on using helm much less the other components | 21:42 |
| openstackgerrit | Evgeniy L proposed openstack/airship-in-a-bottle master: Update dev_minimal README to describe currently known issues https://review.openstack.org/624504 | 21:58 |
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| openstackgerrit | Nishant Kumar proposed openstack/airship-shipyard master: Raise specific errors during create configdocs https://review.openstack.org/624178 | 22:08 |
| openstackgerrit | Drew Walters proposed openstack/airship-treasuremap master: airskiff: Purge Docker before installing Docker CE https://review.openstack.org/623566 | 22:14 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/airship-in-a-bottle master: Revert apiserver and promenade updates https://review.openstack.org/621717 | 22:31 |
| openstackgerrit | Evgeniy L proposed openstack/airship-in-a-bottle master: Add proxy override for Armada chart https://review.openstack.org/624122 | 22:41 |
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| mattmceuen | hey mrhillsman - sorry, off work today and a bit touch and go :) I'd say it depends on what you're trying to get experience with. If you're interested in getting your feet wet with deployment of software (e.g. openstack), helm charts, and the YAML manifest format, then slimmed down airskiff is a good fit. Also a good fit for local testing if you're a developer working on those particular airship components. | 23:58 |
| mattmceuen | If you're interested in a demo of the full stack - that's really what airship in a bottle is, and as such it's more resource intensive. | 23:58 |
| mattmceuen | if you're ready to design a full multinode lab, then the airship-seaworthy site manifests that live in the treasuremap repo are a good place to copy / modify | 23:59 |
| mrhillsman | i am using a dedicated node so no worries about resource constraint | 23:59 |
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