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| openstackgerrit | Gage Hugo proposed openstack/airship-armada master: WIP Add global PEP8/Bandit zuul job https://review.openstack.org/593970 | 02:03 |
| openstackgerrit | Gage Hugo proposed openstack/airship-armada master: WIP Add global PEP8/Bandit zuul job https://review.openstack.org/593970 | 02:05 |
| openstackgerrit | Felipe Monteiro proposed openstack/airship-pegleg master: Run Bandit as a part of tox -e pep8 https://review.openstack.org/593988 | 02:12 |
| openstackgerrit | Felipe Monteiro proposed openstack/airship-pegleg master: Run Bandit as a part of tox -e pep8 https://review.openstack.org/593988 | 02:26 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/airship-armada master: Validation refactor https://review.openstack.org/591403 | 02:52 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/airship-armada master: Add global PEP8/Bandit zuul job https://review.openstack.org/593970 | 03:08 |
| openstackgerrit | Felipe Monteiro proposed openstack/airship-deckhand master: substitution: Implement recursive key deletion https://review.openstack.org/593999 | 03:50 |
| openstackgerrit | Felipe Monteiro proposed openstack/airship-pegleg master: Run Bandit as a part of tox -e pep8 https://review.openstack.org/593988 | 03:52 |
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| openstackgerrit | Smruti Soumitra Khuntia proposed openstack/airship-drydock master: [WIP] Update node-labels through Kubernetes Provisioner https://review.openstack.org/593609 | 11:07 |
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| mark-burnett | #startmeeting airship | 14:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Aug 21 14:00:45 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mark-burnett. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: airship)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'airship' | 14:00 |
| mark-burnett | Hi all, today's etherpad is at: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/airship-meeting-2018-08-21 | 14:01 |
| sthussey | hello | 14:01 |
| mattmceuen | GM! | 14:01 |
| aaronsheffield | o/ | 14:01 |
| mark-burnett | I just got back to the real world Sunday, so I didn't plan much of an agenda. Just a few cleanup items | 14:01 |
| seaneagan | o/ | 14:02 |
| mattmceuen | welcome back mark-burnett, we missed you :D hope your vacation was great | 14:02 |
| mark-burnett | Naturally feel free to add items if you have any discussion points. | 14:02 |
| mark-burnett | Great, but tiring :) | 14:02 |
| mark-burnett | Ok, let's dive into some of the cleanup items | 14:02 |
| mark-burnett | #topic PTG agenda | 14:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "PTG agenda (Meeting topic: airship)" | 14:02 | |
| mark-burnett | The PTG agenda etherpad is https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/AirshipPTG4 | 14:03 |
| mark-burnett | I just want to remind people to capture ideas there | 14:03 |
| mark-burnett | Maybe next week we can take our first stab at organizing it | 14:03 |
| mark-burnett | #topic Meeting re-schedule | 14:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Meeting re-schedule (Meeting topic: airship)" | 14:04 | |
| hogepodge | hi | 14:04 |
| mark-burnett | Hi | 14:04 |
| mattmceuen | gm hogepodge | 14:05 |
| mark-burnett | I will send an email later today to the list about re-scheduling - I just added it to the agenda to make sure it didn't get lost | 14:05 |
| mark-burnett | #action mark-burnett push the ball forward on meeting reschedule via mailing list | 14:05 |
| mark-burnett | #topic Core policy | 14:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Core policy (Meeting topic: airship)" | 14:06 | |
| mark-burnett | Moving through these quickly, as they're really just cleanup | 14:06 |
| openstackgerrit | Kaspars Skels proposed openstack/airship-treasuremap master: Fixes for airship undercloud manifests https://review.openstack.org/592679 | 14:06 |
| mark-burnett | This is one seems pretty similar to me - I get the sense that people would prefer to work entirely through the mailing list for this, which is fine by me. | 14:06 |
| b-str | question. | 14:06 |
| b-str | What is a reasonable # of cores for airship. | 14:06 |
| b-str | I know "it depends" | 14:07 |
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| b-str | but... given the number of components and diversity of the responsibilities of those components, is there any wisdom around this number? | 14:07 |
| mattmceuen | Probably "more than a normal project" since it's a bunch of projects | 14:07 |
| mattmceuen | hogepodge is there a rule of thumb you'd share from different projects' team sizes, is there a sweet spot? | 14:08 |
| mattmceuen | w.r.t. specifically to core reviewers | 14:08 |
| sthussey | Seems to me the main driver is code churn. A large project mostly dormant probably doesn't need many reviewers | 14:08 |
| mark-burnett | I am not sure. I think size could be a consideration when adding/removing someone, but I would be surprised if we start pushing any boundaries on what's reasonable anytime soon. | 14:08 |
| sthussey | And Airship has plenty of code churn. | 14:08 |
| sthussey | I think we just continue to add folks that seem like a good fit | 14:09 |
| sthussey | Doubling the current count would not be a stretch at all | 14:09 |
| mark-burnett | Agreed with that sthussey | 14:09 |
| mattmceuen | Right now we have one big cross-functional team | 14:10 |
| mattmceuen | I believe it's been floated that eventually we might consider partitioning that. Thoughts? | 14:10 |
| mark-burnett | Sounds premature to me, but maybe you have something specific in mind? | 14:10 |
| sthussey | None of the components to me are best-in-class for what they do | 14:11 |
| mattmceuen | also agree with sthussey to grow organically, and that includes deferring some decisions like the above to the last responsible moment ;-) | 14:11 |
| b-str | given logical planning of the desired outcome I could support a reasonable split | 14:11 |
| sthussey | The only value proposition is the synergy of using them togather | 14:11 |
| sthussey | together* | 14:11 |
| mark-burnett | Yeah, none of the components is really stand-alone today, though that's the goal | 14:11 |
| mark-burnett | Probably Drydock is the closest | 14:11 |
| mattmceuen | I don't have a strong opinion right now about whether it will eventually make sense to partition the team, but | 14:11 |
| hogepodge | I don’t have a good rule | 14:12 |
| mattmceuen | The thought was based less on "stand alone-ness" | 14:12 |
| mattmceuen | and more on "domain expertise" | 14:12 |
| mattmceuen | since conerns have been raised along the lines of "it's hard to be a core reviewer of *everything*" | 14:12 |
| mark-burnett | That would make the platform less cohesive probably, which is really the main value prop, as sthussey mentioned | 14:12 |
| sthussey | I think it is fine to have reviewers that focus on pieces | 14:13 |
| sthussey | I think a core should have a high degree of familiarity with the entire platform | 14:13 |
| sthussey | Something being hard doesn't make it wrong | 14:13 |
| hogepodge | Typically core is granted to active contributors who have pushed code and reviewed it, and has shown good judgment | 14:13 |
| b-str | Ok, sounds like we need to think about this problem more. Maybe come up with some proposals or a roadmap of where we want to take this short/mid/long term | 14:13 |
| hogepodge | #link https://docs.openstack.org/openstack-ansible/latest/contributor/core-reviewers.html official guidelines for OpenStack | 14:14 |
| sthussey | And I'm happy to nominate folks that have shown familiarity with a piece and the judgment to withhold approvals on the other pieces | 14:14 |
| sthussey | But I'd hope that second piece is a matter of climbing the learning curve, not a permanent state | 14:15 |
| mark-burnett | Yeah, certainly someone does not need to have contributed to every project to become a core, but familiarity will help keep things working together. | 14:15 |
| hogepodge | (that's for osa, but it's generally applicable) | 14:15 |
| mark-burnett | Which again, is where the value is today | 14:15 |
| mattmceuen | Agree - and I think either way that's a good place to start mark-burnett | 14:15 |
| mattmceuen | and adjust as time goes on if and only if valuable | 14:16 |
| mark-burnett | Ok, do we feel the need to write a short-term core policy down right away? Or are we comfortable being a bit more fluid and operate in the mailing list as an open discussion? | 14:17 |
| hogepodge | I’d see it as part of developing governance for the project | 14:18 |
| b-str | I'm fine with deferring a policy, but not plannig. | 14:19 |
| b-str | planning | 14:19 |
| mattmceuen | I hadn't seen the OSA core responsibilities -- they add a lot of detail on top of the general openstack guidelines: https://docs.openstack.org/infra/manual/core.html | 14:19 |
| b-str | I would expect any expanded policy is driven by need | 14:19 |
| b-str | and not just because someone else has one. | 14:20 |
| mark-burnett | Yeah, probably the PTG would be a good place to discuss this further even. Is that what you had in mind hogepodge? | 14:20 |
| portdirect | The osa augments should be adopted generally for openstack hodgepodge, jus saying ;) | 14:20 |
| hogepodge | Yeah | 14:20 |
| mark-burnett | Ok, I've added a note to the PTG agenda for that | 14:20 |
| mattmceuen | +1 | 14:20 |
| mark-burnett | Any other thoughts before we move on? | 14:21 |
| b-str | cool, sounds like we can expect some great info after the PTG! | 14:21 |
| mark-burnett | #topic Treasuremap | 14:22 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Treasuremap (Meeting topic: airship)" | 14:22 | |
| mark-burnett | So the treasuremap repo is created | 14:22 |
| mark-burnett | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/airship-treasuremap+status:open | 14:22 |
| mark-burnett | The intent is for it to be home to a complete set of viable configuration | 14:23 |
| mark-burnett | This is really just an announcement :) | 14:23 |
| mark-burnett | #topic Weekly design meetings | 14:23 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Weekly design meetings (Meeting topic: airship)" | 14:23 | |
| mattmceuen | 1min | 14:24 |
| mattmceuen | Kaspars has been working on getting the manifests prepped | 14:24 |
| mattmceuen | Review would be much appreciated so we can get them happy and merged! | 14:24 |
| mattmceuen | There are also a couple WIP PS from that link | 14:24 |
| mattmceuen | One for the pipeline that will run against the manifests daily and integrate them with the latest airship & OSH charts -- that one is 100% wip but just FYI | 14:25 |
| mattmceuen | The other WIP is some further edits to the manifests. Kaspars says that the undercloud parts in that PS are coming along nicely and are good for review if anyone is so inclined; otherwise can wait till the whole thing is de-wip'd | 14:26 |
| mattmceuen | But definitely the core manifests - would be great to get that PS merged soon | 14:26 |
| mattmceuen | that's all from me - thx mark-burnett | 14:26 |
| mark-burnett | ok | 14:26 |
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| mark-burnett | I know I haven't been able to review at all, but I know the other cores spend quite a lot of time reviewing | 14:26 |
| sthussey | Just merge it | 14:26 |
| sthussey | It is a net add with no production impact | 14:26 |
| mark-burnett | Ok, so onto the weekly design meeting discussion | 14:27 |
| mark-burnett | The announcement is here | 14:28 |
| mark-burnett | #link http://lists.airshipit.org/pipermail/airship-announce/2018-August/000001.html | 14:28 |
| mark-burnett | Please feel welcome to join. We have had these discussion internally at AT&T and are trying to move them into the community. | 14:29 |
| mark-burnett | Any other thoughts? | 14:30 |
| mattmceuen | ++ | 14:30 |
| mattmceuen | New ideas will be awesome and welcome :) | 14:30 |
| hogepodge | We’ll be sure to promote it on the foundation side | 14:30 |
| mark-burnett | Awesome, thanks | 14:30 |
| mark-burnett | Ok, that's it for old business | 14:31 |
| mark-burnett | And I don't see anything new added | 14:31 |
| mark-burnett | #topic Roundtable | 14:31 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Roundtable (Meeting topic: airship)" | 14:31 | |
| mark-burnett | Any other roundtable topics before we close? | 14:31 |
| hogepodge | Reminder about the sync meeting this Thursday | 14:31 |
| mark-burnett | Oh, nice point | 14:31 |
| hogepodge | 8:30 PT, 10:30 CT | 14:32 |
| mark-burnett | Here's the thread for reference: http://lists.airshipit.org/pipermail/airship-discuss/2018-August/000053.html | 14:32 |
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| mark-burnett | Any other thoughts? | 14:33 |
| hogepodge | We’ll be workshopping the one page overview and possibly 101 slide deck | 14:33 |
| mattmceuen | looking forward to it hogepodge | 14:33 |
| mark-burnett | Alright, thanks for coming all. | 14:34 |
| mark-burnett | #endmeeting | 14:34 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "airshipit.org || General Review Dashboard: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:%255Eopenstack/airship.*+status:open,n,z" | 14:34 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Aug 21 14:34:47 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:34 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/airship/2018/airship.2018-08-21-14.00.html | 14:34 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/airship/2018/airship.2018-08-21-14.00.txt | 14:34 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/airship/2018/airship.2018-08-21-14.00.log.html | 14:34 |
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| openstackgerrit | Aaron Sheffield proposed openstack/airship-promenade master: [WIP] Temp - Do not merge https://review.openstack.org/593689 | 15:21 |
| openstackgerrit | Aaron Sheffield proposed openstack/airship-promenade master: [WIP] Add readOnlyRootFilesystem to HAProxy and CoreDNS. https://review.openstack.org/593686 | 15:24 |
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| openstackgerrit | Gage Hugo proposed openstack/airship-promenade master: Consolidate pep8/bandit zuul gating https://review.openstack.org/594336 | 16:04 |
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| openstackgerrit | Scott Hussey proposed openstack/airship-drydock master: Make device alias resolution optional https://review.openstack.org/578568 | 18:27 |
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| openstackgerrit | Scott Hussey proposed openstack/airship-drydock master: Database tunability https://review.openstack.org/578571 | 18:27 |
| openstackgerrit | Scott Hussey proposed openstack/airship-drydock master: [443514] Set domain for nodes during deployment https://review.openstack.org/588550 | 18:27 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/airship-shipyard master: Remediate failing Bandit gate https://review.openstack.org/593166 | 18:31 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ahmad Mahmoudi proposed openstack/airship-shipyard master: Block site_update if there is no host in MaaS/Drydock https://review.openstack.org/583665 | 18:47 |
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| openstackgerrit | Kaspars Skels proposed openstack/airship-treasuremap master: Fixes for OSH and OSH infra manifests https://review.openstack.org/594316 | 21:19 |
| openstackgerrit | Sean Eagan proposed openstack/airship-armada master: Move release diffing to handler and add unit tests https://review.openstack.org/594551 | 21:47 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/airship-drydock master: Make device alias resolution optional https://review.openstack.org/578568 | 21:51 |
| openstackgerrit | Scott Hussey proposed openstack/airship-drydock master: [WIP] Refactor build to include Go https://review.openstack.org/594555 | 22:04 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/airship-drydock master: Database tunability https://review.openstack.org/578571 | 23:20 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/airship-drydock master: [443514] Set domain for nodes during deployment https://review.openstack.org/588550 | 23:25 |
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