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| openstackgerrit | Felipe Monteiro proposed openstack/airship-pegleg master: Add git and branch revision support to pegleg https://review.openstack.org/582652 | 03:47 |
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| openstackgerrit | Scott Hussey proposed openstack/airship-in-a-bottle master: Definition for virtual site deployment https://review.openstack.org/569444 | 12:51 |
| portdirect | cfriesen: currently the osh armada gate is only documented in code | 13:05 |
| portdirect | :( | 13:05 |
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| mark-burnett | #startmeeting airship | 14:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jul 17 14:00:13 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mark-burnett. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: airship)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'airship' | 14:00 |
| mark-burnett | #topic role call | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "role call (Meeting topic: airship)" | 14:00 | |
| mark-burnett | Hi all, here is our agenda for today: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/airship-meeting-2018-07-17 | 14:00 |
| sthussey | here | 14:00 |
| blancos | o/ | 14:01 |
| roman_g | Good morning | 14:01 |
| b-str | gm | 14:01 |
| mattmceuen | o/ | 14:01 |
| roman_g | o/ | 14:01 |
| aaronsheffield | Good morning. | 14:01 |
| portdirect | o/ | 14:02 |
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| mark-burnett | #topic Duplicate repos/documentation sites | 14:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Duplicate repos/documentation sites (Meeting topic: airship)" | 14:02 | |
| mark-burnett | So it seems there is some confusion about the old git repos under att-comdev and the new openstack repos, as well as some confusion about rtd sites | 14:03 |
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| roman_g | Yes, that's mine | 14:03 |
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| mark-burnett | I wonder if we can archive the att-comdev repos to avoid confusion | 14:04 |
| portdirect | this is what we did with osh | 14:05 |
| portdirect | https://github.com/att-comdev/openstack-helm/commit/ef518cb0fb384031008a9deb372fadf1929dcf28 | 14:05 |
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| portdirect | reduced a lot of confusion | 14:05 |
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| sthussey | just delete them, no one used them anyway | 14:05 |
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| mark-burnett | Ok, I'll look into either updating the readme/emptying them out or archiving them | 14:06 |
| mark-burnett | #action mark-burnett to more clearly mark att-comdev repos or archive them | 14:07 |
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| roman_g | and documentation? | 14:07 |
| roman_g | old sites need to be closed | 14:08 |
| roman_g | and two mode docs sites need to be created | 14:08 |
| mark-burnett | Yeah, so I think armada.readthedocs.org is not ours | 14:08 |
| jayahn | o/ | 14:08 |
| mattmceuen | so one of the airship-related repos that hasn't migrated to openstack (yet) is treasuremap -- do we have a path forward yet on what we're going to migrate vs redo, and where it'll live? | 14:08 |
| powerds0111 | o/ | 14:08 |
| mattmceuen | o/ powerds0111 jayahn :) | 14:09 |
| mark-burnett | mattmceuen I believe some folks have been working to clean that up before that gets moved over | 14:09 |
| mattmceuen | ok awesome - thx | 14:09 |
| roman_g | haven't heard of anything like that. | 14:09 |
| mark-burnett | But the intention is that becomes a showcase of a realistic multi-node deployment | 14:10 |
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| mattmceuen | that's why we have a meeting now roman_g | 14:10 |
| mark-burnett | With the hope that it helps the Akraino project, for example | 14:10 |
| mattmceuen | look we're already communicating better | 14:10 |
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| roman_g | sample site documentation is outdated there, and Darren said that one of internal sites could be cloned to treasuremap as a sample of multinode installation (after cleanup) | 14:11 |
| mark-burnett | Re: docs, I agree we should delete the old rtd repos and get them setup properly | 14:11 |
| roman_g | +1 | 14:11 |
| roman_g | action is on whom? who manages those repos? | 14:12 |
| b-str | We will need to track down the owners. | 14:12 |
| b-str | I think it's various folks | 14:12 |
| mark-burnett | agree | 14:12 |
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| roman_g | I will reach out to RTD team then | 14:12 |
| mark-burnett | #action b-str to track down rtd owners to facilitate deletion | 14:12 |
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| roman_g | ok, ok ))) | 14:12 |
| mark-burnett | ah, thanks for volunteering roman, but i don't think we need to goto that team yet | 14:13 |
| mark-burnett | Anything else on these cleanup items? | 14:13 |
| roman_g | sthussey: would you create 2 more RTD airship-* sites, please? bethr and divingbell | 14:13 |
| roman_g | so that all of them are under your account | 14:14 |
| sthussey | I can | 14:14 |
| mark-burnett | #action sthussey to create remaining airship-* RTD sites | 14:14 |
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| mark-burnett | #topic Logo Feedback | 14:15 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Logo Feedback (Meeting topic: airship)" | 14:15 | |
| roman_g | INFO: Airship documentation on RTD patchsets are on hold until https://review.openstack.org/#/c/579434/ - "Use readthedocs webhook to trigger build" is merged. Felipe, that's for you, because you were reviewing | 14:15 |
| mark-burnett | For those who haven't seen, here is the logo thread in the mailing list: http://lists.airshipit.org/pipermail/airship-discuss/2018-June/000025.html | 14:15 |
| portdirect | there are also now stickers :D | 14:15 |
| mark-burnett | Right | 14:16 |
| mark-burnett | Anyway, I know I haven't given direct feedback yet, but if anyone has any, let's try to get feedback in this week :) | 14:16 |
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| mark-burnett | #topic Bandit incremental testing | 14:16 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Bandit incremental testing (Meeting topic: airship)" | 14:16 | |
| mark-burnett | So, I'm not quite clear on what this adds vs our existing bandit scans, is Jared here? | 14:17 |
| roman_g | most probably not. | 14:17 |
| mark-burnett | Does anyone have a sense of how this would be more thorough than what we already do? | 14:18 |
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| openstackgerrit | Marshall Margenau proposed openstack/airship-armada master: Run helm tests by default https://review.openstack.org/582338 | 14:18 |
| b-str | We currently run a "full" scan, no? | 14:19 |
| sthussey | Doesn't seem useful | 14:19 |
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| mark-burnett | Yeah, it's my understanding that all python components have full bandit scans on commit | 14:19 |
| sthussey | And no arguments for adopting it were provided - I would table it or close it. | 14:19 |
| mattmceuen | The incremental scans measure deltas from previous run, I believe (I'm not an expert on them though). That seems helpful in a CI context to show that issues, haven't been added, right? | 14:19 |
| sthussey | Do you not just care about the full attack surface? | 14:20 |
| mattmceuen | Do we know who added this one to the agenda - so we can understand the ask better? | 14:20 |
| mark-burnett | Jared Stein added it, but is not here | 14:20 |
| mattmceuen | Ok, agree w/ sthussy on tabling it so we can talk w/ Jared | 14:21 |
| mark-burnett | I think we should just shelve this, since we're already doing full scans and new issues will cause the gates to fail. | 14:21 |
| mark-burnett | Ok | 14:21 |
| mark-burnett | #topic New Drydock features/specs | 14:21 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "New Drydock features/specs (Meeting topic: airship)" | 14:21 | |
| mattmceuen | your reasoning there ^ makes sense to me too mark-burnett | 14:22 |
| mark-burnett | There are two thin stories up to prompt writing specs for supporting RAID and BIOS configuration in drydock | 14:22 |
| mark-burnett | Is anyone interested in working on these specs? | 14:23 |
| mark-burnett | I know there have been a couple of comments on the stories | 14:23 |
| roman_g | 1 sec | 14:24 |
| roman_g | there is | 14:24 |
| roman_g | https://github.com/hemanthnakkina/opensource_blueprints/tree/master/specs/airship | 14:24 |
| goutham | I can do that.. Please share the desc somewhere | 14:24 |
| goutham | description * | 14:24 |
| goutham | i will do | 14:25 |
| mark-burnett | It sounds like hemanth has already gotten a nice start on this | 14:25 |
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| mark-burnett | Maybe you can help work through some additional details goutham? | 14:26 |
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| goutham | ok sure i will try doing that | 14:26 |
| goutham | will talk to hemanth once | 14:26 |
| singhannie | Can I contribute in one of them too? | 14:27 |
| mark-burnett | So we should actually have an airship-specs repo up soon, so that everyone can contribute | 14:27 |
| mattmceuen | That would be awesome singhannie & goutham | 14:27 |
| mark-burnett | #action b-str to get the specs infrastructure in place once the repo is created | 14:28 |
| mattmceuen | I know drydock is pluggable, but we've only been using one plugin for a while - would it make sense to make a no-op plugin to begin with just to exercise the pluggability part of it a little more before plugging in new backends? | 14:28 |
| goutham | thanks mattmceuen and mark-burnett will be happy to do that. | 14:28 |
| mattmceuen | (disclosure that was rodolfo's idea not mine) | 14:29 |
| sthussey | there are already multiple plugins | 14:29 |
| mattmceuen | oh ok | 14:29 |
| mark-burnett | i suspect the plugin interface will be refined as we add more | 14:29 |
| mattmceuen | what are the other ones sthussey? | 14:29 |
| sthussey | virsh | 14:30 |
| sthussey | and manual | 14:30 |
| mattmceuen | awesome | 14:30 |
| mark-burnett | Ok, this leads into our last topic | 14:30 |
| mark-burnett | #topic MAAS alternatives | 14:30 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "MAAS alternatives (Meeting topic: airship)" | 14:30 | |
| mark-burnett | So I think the fundamental answer here is "yes, we want more plugins" | 14:30 |
| mark-burnett | It's not a mutually exclusive situation | 14:30 |
| roman_g | That's mine. I've heard that some people were concerned by performance, and proposed alternative I used previously | 14:31 |
| sthussey | net add, folks can add support for any provisioner they want | 14:31 |
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| mark-burnett | If anyone is interested in adding another plugin, say for ironic or xcat, I would suggest starting with a spec -- ideally that spec will include how we can test the plugin | 14:31 |
| roman_g | plugin must be able to run in container, right? | 14:32 |
| mark-burnett | re: performance - I can't speak to what kinds of MAAS performance issues we've seen | 14:32 |
| mark-burnett | roman_g: I think currently it would be an additional driver in drydock code | 14:33 |
| mark-burnett | Does anyone have more thoughts on this? | 14:33 |
| mark-burnett | OK | 14:34 |
| mark-burnett | #topic round table | 14:34 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "round table (Meeting topic: airship)" | 14:34 | |
| mark-burnett | Does anyone have any other discussion points? Perhaps we could propose longer items as agenda points for next week? | 14:34 |
| roman_g | We have record in number of people on the channel. | 14:34 |
| mark-burnett | Nice | 14:35 |
| mattmceuen | :D | 14:35 |
| mattmceuen | Just to +1 the idea of an ironic plugin up above - a spec for that (esp with help from someone with ironic experience) would be really valuable | 14:36 |
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| mark-burnett | Awesome, thanks everyone for coming! | 14:36 |
| mark-burnett | #endmeeting | 14:36 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "airshipit.org || General Review Dashboard: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:%255Eopenstack/airship.*+status:open,n,z" | 14:36 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jul 17 14:36:49 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:36 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/airship/2018/airship.2018-07-17-14.00.html | 14:36 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/airship/2018/airship.2018-07-17-14.00.txt | 14:36 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/airship/2018/airship.2018-07-17-14.00.log.html | 14:36 |
| roman_g | > idea of an ironic plugin up above | 14:37 |
| mattmceuen | thanks all! | 14:37 |
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| Uday_T_Kumar | thanks | 14:38 |
| roman_g | Ah, RAID configuration story. | 14:38 |
| sthussey | @roman_g - readthedocs.io projects for berth and divingbell created and you are a maintainer | 14:39 |
| roman_g | mattmceuen, mark-burnett how do complete specs look like? | 14:39 |
| sthussey | both builds are failing | 14:39 |
| mark-burnett | roman_g: I think we're just going to start with a template lifted from another OS project - I would say it's something worth being flexible on until we get our feet under us | 14:39 |
| roman_g | sthussey, thank you! Yes, builds would fail, it's still in work in progress. Divingbell has wronk credentials, and berth has not docs build target in Makefile (at least) | 14:40 |
| mattmceuen | here's an example roman_g: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/556325/ | 14:40 |
| roman_g | wronk -> wrong | 14:40 |
| roman_g | mattmceuen: thank you! | 14:40 |
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| mattmceuen | here's an example template too: https://github.com/openstack/openstack-helm/blob/master/doc/source/specs/template.rst | 14:40 |
| sthussey | I believe we have built our own template | 14:41 |
| sthussey | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/582984/1/docs/source/blueprints/update_labels_workflow.rst | 14:42 |
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| b-str | I have a prototype template that will go in the airship-specs repo once it's there, and it is something we can review and improve. I modeled it after some of the other OpenStack projects as well - saw there was some variability on what's in different project's templates. | 14:48 |
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| roman_g | b-str: the one, Scott was referring to? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/582984/1 | 14:49 |
| b-str | that was built using the template... it is not the template itself. | 14:49 |
| roman_g | ok | 14:50 |
| b-str | ah, I see the specs repo PS was merged, I can move forward with that now. | 14:50 |
| roman_g | merged, but repo isn't there yet | 14:51 |
| mark-burnett | Correct, we'll need to do: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/581470/1 | 14:51 |
| roman_g | why recheck still failed? | 14:52 |
| roman_g | it was 12 minutes after PS has been merged | 14:53 |
| mark-burnett | Probably just waiting for a particular job to run | 14:54 |
| mark-burnett | Actually, I see it in github | 14:54 |
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| b-str | I'll try to have something up later today | 15:01 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ahmad Mahmoudi proposed openstack/airship-in-a-bottle master: Updated dev-minimal to deploy behind proxy https://review.openstack.org/582665 | 15:38 |
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| roman_g | mark-burnett: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/581470/ - Zuul build succeeded | 15:48 |
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| mark-burnett | oh good | 15:48 |
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| openstackgerrit | Bryan Strassner proposed openstack/airship-specs master: Initial commit of specs repo https://review.openstack.org/583294 | 16:04 |
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| openstackgerrit | Bryan Strassner proposed openstack/airship-specs master: Initial commit of specs repo https://review.openstack.org/583294 | 16:07 |
| openstackgerrit | Felipe Monteiro proposed openstack/airship-pegleg master: Add git and branch revision support to pegleg https://review.openstack.org/582652 | 16:20 |
| openstackgerrit | Felipe Monteiro proposed openstack/airship-pegleg master: Add git and branch revision support to pegleg https://review.openstack.org/582652 | 16:21 |
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| cfriesen_ | is there a set of instructions somewhere on prerequisites for running the scripts at https://github.com/openstack/openstack-helm/tree/master/tools/deployment/armada ? Do the scripts get run in numerical order after running the equivalent of "make dev-deploy k8s multinode"? | 16:34 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jerome Brette proposed openstack/airship-armada master: Update Dockerfile to allow override of FROM variable https://review.openstack.org/577971 | 17:05 |
| openstackgerrit | Jerome Brette proposed openstack/airship-drydock master: Update Dockerfile to allow override of FROM variable https://review.openstack.org/577972 | 17:14 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/airship-armada master: Run helm tests by default https://review.openstack.org/582338 | 17:28 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jerome Brette proposed openstack/airship-shipyard master: Update Dockerfile to allow override of FROM variable https://review.openstack.org/577979 | 17:32 |
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| openstackgerrit | Bryan Strassner proposed openstack/airship-specs master: Initial commit of specs repo https://review.openstack.org/583294 | 17:58 |
| openstackgerrit | Jerome Brette proposed openstack/airship-armada master: Update Dockerfile to allow override of FROM variable https://review.openstack.org/577971 | 18:08 |
| openstackgerrit | Jerome Brette proposed openstack/airship-drydock master: Update Dockerfile to allow override of FROM variable https://review.openstack.org/577972 | 18:10 |
| openstackgerrit | Jerome Brette proposed openstack/airship-armada master: Update Dockerfile to allow override of FROM variable https://review.openstack.org/577971 | 18:12 |
| openstackgerrit | Jerome Brette proposed openstack/airship-shipyard master: Update Dockerfile to allow override of FROM variable https://review.openstack.org/577979 | 18:14 |
| openstackgerrit | Jerome Brette proposed openstack/airship-shipyard master: Update Dockerfile to allow override of FROM variable https://review.openstack.org/577979 | 18:15 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jerome Brette proposed openstack/airship-deckhand master: Update Dockerfile to allow override of FROM variable https://review.openstack.org/577976 | 18:23 |
| cfriesen_ | running openstack-helm/tools/deployment/armada/015-armada-build.sh I see an error "python-keystoneclient 3.17.0 has requirement keystoneauth1>=3.4.0, but you'll have keystoneauth1 2.21.0 which is incompatible". Is this expected? | 18:31 |
| openstackgerrit | Jerome Brette proposed openstack/airship-maas master: Update Dockerfile to allow override of FROM variable https://review.openstack.org/577977 | 18:34 |
| sthussey | @cfriesen_ yes | 18:35 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jerome Brette proposed openstack/airship-pegleg master: Update Dockerfile to allow override of FROM variable https://review.openstack.org/577973 | 18:41 |
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| cfriesen_ | sthussey: thanks. looking at armada, it seems weird that it's lacking "list" and "show" commands for manifests. | 18:43 |
| cfriesen_ | it seems odd to use colons as namespace delimitors for the "armada apply --set" command when helm uses periods, especially when colons usually have special meaning to the shell. | 18:47 |
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| openstackgerrit | Scott Hussey proposed openstack/airship-promenade master: (fix) Update deckhand dependency https://review.openstack.org/582970 | 19:00 |
| openstackgerrit | Bryan Strassner proposed openstack/airship-specs master: Initial commit of specs repo https://review.openstack.org/583294 | 19:03 |
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| openstackgerrit | Bryan Strassner proposed openstack/airship-specs master: Add update_labels spec https://review.openstack.org/583343 | 19:09 |
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| cfriesen_ | after running tools/deployment/armada/030-armada-apply-manifests.sh am I supposed to run tools/deployment/multinode/010-setup-client.sh to set up the clients? (Is the proper use of tools/deployment/armada documented anywhere?) | 20:35 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jerome Brette proposed openstack/airship-shipyard master: Update Dockerfile to allow override of FROM variable https://review.openstack.org/577979 | 21:42 |
| openstackgerrit | Jerome Brette proposed openstack/airship-maas master: Update Dockerfile to allow override of FROM variable https://review.openstack.org/577977 | 21:42 |
| cfriesen_ | is there a reason why there is no "show" or "list" commands for armada? Also, it seems odd that the "rollback" command only applies to a release and not to a manifest. | 22:07 |
| roman_g | cfriesen_: I'm not sure if anyone from developers would be available for today, but just in case we have a weekly meetings on every Tuesday, 14:00 UTC. | 22:14 |
| cfriesen_ | okay, thanks. | 22:15 |
| roman_g | I'm not saying there will be no one on a channel, but sthussey seems to be offline at the moment. | 22:15 |
| roman_g | May be someone else will come and answer questions. | 22:16 |
| roman_g | cfriesen_: here are links: http://lists.airshipit.org/pipermail/airship-discuss/2018-July/000037.html | 22:16 |
| cfriesen_ | thanks | 22:17 |
| roman_g | and of course you can ask questions in a list, if you want to communicate via e-mail | 22:17 |
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| mattmceuen | Hey cfriesen_ -- yes, armada just gets openstack (etc) deployed, and then you use the software the same as charts deployed through any other mechanism. I haven't tried `010-setup-client.sh` on the armada gate script-deployed OSH, but I'd expect it to work | 22:38 |
| mattmceuen | Do you think "armada show" / "armada list" would add value above the native helm client? | 22:39 |
| cfriesen_ | mattmceuen: armada currently supports "delete" based on manifests, but without a "list" you need something else to keep track of what manifests were applied. | 22:40 |
| cfriesen_ | similarly, "rollback" only supporting releases makes the concept upgrading a manifest less useful since you can't rollback the whole upgrade at once. | 22:41 |
| cfriesen_ | (this is with the caveat that I've got all of like a day of experience looking at armada) | 22:41 |
| mattmceuen | good point - I think that's something we should add to the backlog | 22:42 |
| mattmceuen | (re armada list ^) | 22:44 |
| mattmceuen | there may already be more rollback logic planned, I'll try to find out | 22:45 |
| cfriesen_ | incidentally, the clients seem to have installed properly, but I've got some sort of authentication issue with keystone. | 22:47 |
| cfriesen_ | how do I find the admin password for the armada-started openstack? | 22:50 |
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| cfriesen_ | never mind, found it in /tmp/armada-osh.yaml | 23:15 |
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